TITLE III--SMALL BUSINESS REGULATORY FAIRNESS
SEC. 301. SHORT TITLE.
This title may be cited as the `Small Business Regulatory
Enforcement Fairness Act of 1996'.
SEC. 302. FINDINGS.
Congress finds that--
(1) a vibrant and growing small business sector is critical
to creating jobs in a dynamic economy;
(2) small businesses bear a disproportionate share of regulatory
costs and burdens;
(3) fundamental changes that are needed in the regulatory
and enforcement culture of Federal agencies to make agencies
more responsive to small business can be made without compromising
the statutory missions of the agencies;
(4) three of the top recommendations of the 1995 White House
Conference on Small Business involve reforms to the way government
regulations are developed and enforced, and reductions in
government paperwork requirements;
(5) the requirements of chapter 6 of title 5, United States
Code, have too often been ignored by government agencies,
resulting in greater regulatory burdens on small entities
than necessitated by statute; and
(6) small entities should be given the opportunity to seek
judicial review of agency actions required by chapter 6 of
title 5, United States Code.
SEC. 303. PURPOSES.
The purposes of this title are--
(1) to implement certain recommendations of the 1995 White
House Conference on Small Business regarding the development
and enforcement of Federal regulations;
(2) to provide for judicial review of chapter 6 of title
5, United States Code;
(3) to encourage the effective participation of small businesses
in the Federal regulatory process;
(4) to simplify the language of Federal regulations affecting
small businesses;
(5) to develop more accessible sources of information on
regulatory and reporting requirements for small businesses;
(6) to create a more cooperative regulatory environment among
agencies and small businesses that is less punitive and more
solution-oriented; and
(7) to make Federal regulators more accountable for their
enforcement actions by providing small entities with a meaningful
opportunity for redress of excessive enforcement activities.
Subtitle A--Regulatory Compliance Simplification
SEC. 311. DEFINITIONS.
For purposes of this subtitle--
(1) the terms `rule' and `small entity' have the same meanings
as in section 601 of title 5, United States Code;
(2) the term `agency' has the same meaning as in section
551 of title 5, United States Code; and
(3) the term `small entity compliance guide' means a document
designated as such by an agency.
SEC. 312. COMPLIANCE GUIDES.
(a) Compliance Guide: For each rule or group of related rules
for which an agency is required to prepare a final regulatory
flexibility analysis under section 604 of title 5, United
States Code, the agency shall publish one or more guides to
assist small entities in complying with the rule, and shall
designate such publications as `small entity compliance guides'.
The guides shall explain the actions a small entity is required
to take to comply with a rule or group of rules. The agency
shall, in its sole discretion, taking into account the subject
matter of the rule and the language of relevant statutes,
ensure that the guide is written using sufficiently plain
language likely to be understood by affected small entities.
Agencies may prepare separate guides covering groups or classes
of similarly affected small entities, and may cooperate with
associations of small entities to develop and distribute such
guides.
(b) Comprehensive Source of Information: Agencies shall cooperate
to make available to small entities through comprehensive
sources of information, the small entity compliance guides
and all other available information on statutory and regulatory
requirements affecting small entities.
(c) Limitation on Judicial Review: An agency's small entity
compliance guide shall not be subject to judicial review,
except that in any civil or administrative action against
a small entity for a violation occurring after the effective
date of this section, the content of the small entity compliance
guide may be considered as evidence of the reasonableness
or appropriateness of any proposed fines, penalties or damages.
SEC. 313. INFORMAL SMALL ENTITY GUIDANCE.
(a) General: Whenever appropriate in the interest of administering
statutes and regulations within the jurisdiction of an agency
which regulates small entities, it shall be the practice of
the agency to answer inquiries by small entities concerning
information on, and advice about, compliance with such statutes
and regulations, interpreting and applying the law to specific
sets of facts supplied by the small entity. In any civil or
administrative action against a small entity, guidance given
by an agency applying the law to facts provided by the small
entity may be considered as evidence of the reasonableness
or appropriateness of any proposed fines, penalties or damages
sought against such small entity.
(b) Program: Each agency regulating the activities of small
entities shall establish a program for responding to such
inquiries no later than 1 year after enactment of this section,
utilizing existing functions and personnel of the agency to
the extent practicable.
(c) Reporting: Each agency regulating the activities of small
business shall report to the Committee on Small Business and
Committee on Governmental Affairs of the Senate and the Committee
on Small Business and Committee on the Judiciary of the House
of Representatives no later than 2 years after the date of
the enactment of this section on the scope of the agency's
program, the number of small entities using the program, and
the achievements of the program to assist small entity compliance
with agency regulations.
SEC. 314. SERVICES OF SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTERS.
(a) Section 21(c)(3) of the Small Business Act (15 U.S.C.
648(c)(3)) is amended--
(1) in subparagraph (O), by striking `and' at the end;
(2) in subparagraph (P), by striking the period at the end
and inserting a semicolon; and
(3) by inserting after subparagraph (P) the following new
subparagraphs:
`(Q) providing information to small business concerns regarding
compliance with regulatory requirements; and
`(R) developing informational publications, establishing
resource centers of reference materials, and distributing
compliance guides published under section 312(a) of the Small
Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act of 1996.'.
(b) Nothing in this Act in any way affects or limits the ability
of other technical assistance or extension programs to perform
or continue to perform services related to compliance assistance.
SEC. 315. COOPERATION ON GUIDANCE.
Agencies may, to the extent resources are available and where
appropriate, in cooperation with the states, develop guides
that fully integrate requirements of both Federal and state
regulations where regulations within an agency's area of interest
at the Federal and state levels impact small entities. Where
regulations vary among the states, separate guides may be
created for separate states in cooperation with State agencies.
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SEC. 316. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle shall
take effect on the expiration of 90 days after the date of
enactment of this subtitle.
Subtitle B--Regulatory Enforcement Reforms
SEC. 321. DEFINITIONS.
For purposes of this subtitle--
(1) the terms `rule' and `small entity' have the same meanings
as in section 601 of title 5, United States Code;
(2) the term `agency' has the same meaning as in section
551 of title 5, United States Code; and
(3) the term `small entity compliance guide' means a document
designated as such by an agency.
SEC. 322. SMALL BUSINESS AND AGRICULTURE ENFORCEMENT OMBUDSMAN.
The Small Business Act (15 U.S.C. 631 et seq.) is amended--
(1) by redesignating section 30 as section 31; and
(2) by inserting after section 29 the following new section:
`SEC. 30. OVERSIGHT OF REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT.
`(a) Definitions: For purposes of this section, the term--
`(1) `Board' means a Regional Small Business Regulatory Fairness
Board established under subsection (c); and
`(2) `Ombudsman' means the Small Business and Agriculture
Regulatory Enforcement Ombudsman designated under subsection
(b).
`(b) SBA Enforcement Ombudsman:
`(1) Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment
of this section, the Administrator shall designate a Small
Business and Agriculture Regulatory Enforcement Ombudsman,
who shall report directly to the Administrator, utilizing
personnel of the Small Business Administration to the extent
practicable. Other agencies shall assist the Ombudsman and
take actions as necessary to ensure compliance with the requirements
of this section. Nothing in this section is intended to replace
or diminish the activities of any Ombudsman or similar office
in any other agency.
`(2) The Ombudsman shall--
`(A) work with each agency with regulatory authority over
small businesses to ensure that small business concerns that
receive or are subject to an audit, on-site inspection, compliance
assistance effort, or other enforcement related communication
or contact by agency personnel are provided with a means to
comment on the enforcement activity conducted by such personnel;
`(B) establish means to receive comments from small business
concerns regarding actions by agency employees conducting
compliance or enforcement activities with respect to the small
business concern, means to refer comments to the Inspector
General of the affected agency in the appropriate circumstances,
and otherwise seek to maintain the identity of the person
and small business concern making such comments on a confidential
basis to the same extent as employee identities are protected
under section 7 of the Inspector General Act of 1978 (5 U.S.C.App.);
`(C) based on substantiated comments received from small
business concerns and the Boards, annually report to Congress
and affected agencies evaluating the enforcement activities
of agency personnel including a rating of the responsiveness
to small business of the various regional and program offices
of each agency;
`(D) coordinate and report annually on the activities, findings
and recommendations of the Boards to the Administrator and
to the heads of affected agencies; and
`(E) provide the affected agency with an opportunity to comment
on draft reports prepared under subparagraph (C), and include
a section of the final report in which the affected agency
may make such comments as are not addressed by the Ombudsman
in revisions to the draft.
`(c) Regional Small Business Regulatory Fairness Boards:
`(1) Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment
of this section, the Administrator shall establish a Small
Business Regulatory Fairness Board in each regional office
of the Small Business Administration.
`(2) Each Board established under paragraph (1) shall--
`(A) meet at least annually to advise the Ombudsman on matters
of concern to small businesses relating to the enforcement
activities of agencies;
`(B) report to the Ombudsman on substantiated instances of
excessive enforcement actions of agencies against small business
concerns including any findings or recommendations of the
Board as to agency enforcement policy or practice; and
`(C) prior to publication, provide comment on the annual
report of the Ombudsman prepared under subsection (b).
`(3) Each Board shall consist of five members, who are owners,
operators, or officers of small business concerns, appointed
by the Administrator, after receiving the recommendations
of the chair and ranking minority member of the Committees
on Small Business of the House of Representatives and the
Senate. Not more than three of the Board members shall be
of the same political party. No member shall be an officer
or employee of the Federal Government, in either the executive
branch or the Congress.
`(4) Members of the Board shall serve at the pleasure of
the Administrator for terms of three years or less.
`(5) The Administrator shall select a chair from among the
members of the Board who shall serve at the pleasure of the
Administrator for not more than 1 year as chair.
`(6) A majority of the members of the Board shall constitute
a quorum for the conduct of business, but a lesser number
may hold hearings.
`(d) Powers of the Boards.
`(1) The Board may hold such hearings and collect such information
as appropriate for carrying out this section.
`(2) The Board may use the United States mails in the same
manner and under the same conditions as other departments
and agencies of the Federal Government.
`(3) The Board may accept donations of services necessary
to conduct its business, provided that the donations and their
sources are disclosed by the Board.
`(4) Members of the Board shall serve without compensation,
provided that, members of the Board shall be allowed travel
expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence, at rates
authorized for employees of agencies under subchapter I of
chapter 57 of title 5, United States Code, while away from
their homes or regular places of business in the performance
of services for the Board.'.
SEC. 323. RIGHTS OF SMALL ENTITIES IN ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.
(a) In General: Each agency regulating the activities of small
entities shall establish a policy or program within 1 year
of enactment of this section to provide for the reduction,
and under appropriate circumstances for the waiver, of civil
penalties for violations of a statutory or regulatory requirement
by a small entity. Under appropriate circumstances, an agency
may consider ability to pay in determining penalty assessments
on small entities.
(b) Conditions and Exclusions: Subject to the requirements
or limitations of other statutes, policies or programs established
under this section shall contain conditions or exclusions
which may include, but shall not be limited to--
(1) requiring the small entity to correct the violation within
a reasonable correction period;
(2) limiting the applicability to violations discovered through
participation by the small entity in a compliance assistance
or audit program operated or supported by the agency or a
state;
(3) excluding small entities that have been subject to multiple
enforcement actions by the agency;
(4) excluding violations involving willful or criminal conduct;
(5) excluding violations that pose serious health, safety
or environmental threats; and
(6) requiring a good faith effort to comply with the law.
(c) Reporting: Agencies shall report to the Committee on Small
Business and Committee on Governmental Affairs of the Senate
and the Committee on Small Business and Committee on Judiciary
of the House of Representatives no later than 2 years after
the date of enactment of this section on the scope of their
program or policy, the number of enforcement actions against
small entities that qualified or failed to qualify for the
program or policy, and the total amount of penalty reductions
and waivers.
SEC. 324. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle shall
take effect on the expiration of 90 days after the date of
enactment of this subtitle.
Subtitle C--Equal Access to Justice Act Amendments
SEC. 331. ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS.
(a) Section 504(a) of title 5, United States Code, is amended
by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
`(4) If, in an adversary adjudication arising from an agency
action to enforce a party's compliance with a statutory or
regulatory requirement, the demand by the agency is substantially
in excess of the decision of the adjudicative officer and
is unreasonable when compared with such decision, under the
facts and circumstances of the case, the adjudicative officer
shall award to the party the fees and other expenses related
to defending against the excessive demand, unless the party
has committed a willful violation of law or otherwise acted
in bad faith, or special circumstances make an award unjust.
Fees and expenses awarded under this paragraph shall be paid
only as a consequence of appropriations provided in advance.'.
(b) Section 504(b) of title 5, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (1)(A), by striking `$75' and inserting
'`$125';
(2) at the end of paragraph (1)(B), by inserting before the
semicolon `or for purposes of subsection (a)(4), a small entity
as defined in section 601';
(3) at the end of paragraph (1)(D), by striking `and';
(4) at the end of paragraph (1)(E), by striking the period
and inserting `; and'; and
(5) at the end of paragraph (1), by adding the following
new subparagraph:
`(F) `demand' means the express demand of the agency which
led to the adversary adjudication, but does not include a
recitation by the agency of the maximum statutory penalty
(i) in the administrative complaint, or (ii) elsewhere when
accompanied by an express demand for a lesser amount.'.
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SEC. 332. JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS.
(a) Section 2412(d)(1) of title 28, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following new subparagraph:
`(D) If, in a civil action brought by the United States, or
a proceeding for judicial review of an adversary adjudication
described in section 504(a)(4) of title 5 the demand by the
United States is substantially in excess of the judgment finally
obtained by the United States and is unreasonable when compared
with such judgment, under the facts and circumstances of the
case, the court shall award to the party the fees and other
expenses related to defending against the excessive demand,
unless the party has committed a willful violation of law
or otherwise acted in bad faith, or special circumstances
make an award unjust. Fees and expenses awarded under this
subparagraph shall be paid only as a consequence of appropriations
provided in advance.'.
(b) Section 2412(d) of title 28, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (2)(A), by striking `$75' and inserting
`$125';
(2) at the end of paragraph (2)(B), by inserting before the
semicolon `or for purposes of subsection (d)(1)(D), a small
entity as defined in section 601 of title 5';
(3) at the end of paragraph (2)(G), by striking `and';
(4) at the end of paragraph (2)(H), by striking the period
and inserting `; and'; and
(5) at the end of paragraph (2), by adding the following
new subparagraph:
`(I) `demand' means the express demand of the United States
which led to the adversary adjudication, but shall not include
a recitation of the maximum statutory penalty (i) in the complaint,
or (ii) elsewhere when accompanied by an express demand for
a lesser amount.'.
SEC. 333. EFFECTIVE DATE.
The amendments made by sections 331 and 332 shall apply to
civil actions and adversary adjudications commenced on or
after the date of the enactment of this subtitle.
Subtitle D--Regulatory Flexibility Act Amendments
SEC. 341. REGULATORY FLEXIBILITY ANALYSES.
(a) Initial Regulatory Flexibility Analysis:
(1) Section 603: Section 603(a) of title 5, United States
Code, is amended--
(A) by inserting after `proposed rule', the phrase `, or
publishes a notice of proposed rulemaking for an interpretative
rule involving the internal revenue laws of the United States';
and
(B) by inserting at the end of the subsection, the following
new sentence: `In the case of an interpretative rule involving
the internal revenue laws of the United States, this chapter
applies to interpretative rules published in the Federal Register
for codification in the Code of Federal Regulations, but only
to the extent that such interpretative rules impose on small
entities a collection of information requirement.'.
(2) Section 601: Section 601 of title 5, United States Code,
is amended by striking `and' at the end of paragraph (5),
by striking the period at the end of paragraph (6) and inserting
`; and', and by adding at the end the following:
`(7) the term `collection of information'--
`(A) means the obtaining, causing to be obtained, soliciting,
or requiring the disclosure to third parties or the public,
of facts or opinions by or for an agency, regardless of form
or format, calling for either--
`(i) answers to identical questions posed to, or identical
reporting or recordkeeping requirements imposed on, 10 or
more persons, other than agencies, instrumentalities, or employees
of the United States; or
`(ii) answers to questions posed to agencies, instrumentalities,
or employees of the United States which are to be used for
general statistical purposes; and
`(B) shall not include a collection of information described
under section 3518(c)(1) of title 44, United States Code.
`(8) Recordkeeping requirement: The term `recordkeeping requirement'
means a requirement imposed by an agency on persons to maintain
specified records.
(b) Final Regulatory Flexibility Analysis: Section 604 of
title 5, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in subsection (a) to read as follows:
`(a) When an agency promulgates a final rule under section
553 of this title, after being required by that section or
any other law to publish a general notice of proposed rulemaking,
or promulgates a final interpretative rule involving the internal
revenue laws of the United States as described in section
603(a), the agency shall prepare a final regulatory flexibility
analysis. Each final regulatory flexibility analysis shall
contain--
`(1) a succinct statement of the need for, and objectives
of, the rule;
`(2) a summary of the significant issues raised by the public
comments in response to the initial regulatory flexibility
analysis, a summary of the assessment of the agency of such
issues, and a statement of any changes made in the proposed
rule as a result of such comments;
`(3) a description of and an estimate of the number of small
entities to which the rule will apply or an explanation of
why no such estimate is available;
`(4) a description of the projected reporting, record keeping
and other compliance requirements of the rule, including an
estimate of the classes of small entities which will be subject
to the requirement and the type of professional skills necessary
for preparation of the report or record; and
`(5) a description of the steps the agency has taken to minimize
the significant economic impact on small entities consistent
with the stated objectives of applicable statutes, including
a statement of the factual, policy, and legal reasons for
selecting the alternative adopted in the final rule and why
each one of the other significant alternatives to the rule
considered by the agency which affect the impact on small
entities was rejected.'; and
(2) in subsection (b), by striking `at the time' and all
that follows and inserting `such analysis or a summary thereof.'.
SEC. 342. JUDICIAL REVIEW.
Section 611 of title 5, United States Code, is amended to
read as follows:
`611. Judicial review
`(a)(1) For any rule subject to this chapter, a small entity
that is adversely affected or aggrieved by final agency action
is entitled to judicial review of agency compliance with the
requirements of sections 601, 604, 605(b), 608(b), and 610
in accordance with chapter 7. Agency compliance with sections
607 and 609(a) shall be judicially reviewable in connection
with judicial review of section 604.
`(2) Each court having jurisdiction to review such rule for
compliance with section 553, or under any other provision
of law, shall have jurisdiction to review any claims of noncompliance
with sections 601, 604, 605(b), 608(b), and 610 in accordance
with chapter 7. Agency compliance with sections 607 and 609(a)
shall be judicially reviewable in connection with judicial
review of section 604.
`(3)(A) A small entity may seek such review during the period
beginning on the date of final agency action and ending one
year later, except that where a provision of law requires
that an action challenging a final agency action be commenced
before the expiration of one year, such lesser period shall
apply to an action for judicial review under this section.
`(B) In the case where an agency delays the issuance of a
final regulatory flexibility analysis pursuant to section
608(b) of this chapter, an action for judicial review under
this section shall be filed not later than--
`(i) one year after the date the analysis is made available
to the public, or
`(ii) where a provision of law requires that an action challenging
a final agency regulation be commenced before the expiration
of the 1-year period, the number of days specified in such
provision of law that is after the date the analysis is made
available to the public.
`(4) In granting any relief in an action under this section,
the court shall order the agency to take corrective action
consistent with this chapter and chapter 7, including, but
not limited to--
`(A) remanding the rule to the agency, and
`(B) deferring the enforcement of the rule against small
entities unless the court finds that continued enforcement
of the rule is in the public interest.
`(5) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to limit
the authority of any court to stay the effective date of any
rule or provision thereof under any other provision of law
or to grant any other relief in addition to the requirements
of this section.
`(b) In an action for the judicial review of a rule, the regulatory
flexibility analysis for such rule, including an analysis
prepared or corrected pursuant to paragraph (a)(4), shall
constitute part of the entire record of agency action in connection
with such review.
`(c) Compliance or noncompliance by an agency with the provisions
of this chapter shall be subject to judicial review only in
accordance with this section.
`(d) Nothing in this section bars judicial review of any other
impact statement or similar analysis required by any other
law if judicial review of such statement or analysis is otherwise
permitted by law.'.
SEC. 343. TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING AMENDMENTS.
(a) Section 605(b) of title 5, United States Code, is amended
to read as follows:
`(b) Sections 603 and 604 of this title shall not apply to
any proposed or final rule if the head of the agency certifies
that the rule will not, if promulgated, have a significant
economic impact on a substantial number of small entities.
If the head of the agency makes a certification under the
preceding sentence, the agency shall publish such certification
in the Federal Register at the time of publication of general
notice of proposed rulemaking for the rule or at the time
of publication of the final rule, along with a statement providing
the factual basis for such certification. The agency shall
provide such certification and statement to the Chief Counsel
for Advocacy of the Small Business Administration.'.
(b) Section 612 of title 5, United States Code is amended--
(1) in subsection (a), by striking `the committees on the
Judiciary of the Senate and the House of Representatives,
the Select Committee on Small Business of the Senate, and
the Committee on Small Business of the House of Representatives'
and inserting `the Committees on the Judiciary and Small Business
of the Senate and House of Representatives'.
(2) in subsection (b), by striking `his views with respect
to the' and inserting in lieu thereof, `his or her views with
respect to compliance with this chapter, the adequacy of the
rulemaking record with respect to small entities and the'.
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SEC. 344. SMALL BUSINESS ADVOCACY REVIEW PANELS.
(a) Small Business Outreach and Interagency Coordination:
Section 609 of title 5, United States Code is amended--
(1) before `techniques,' by inserting `the reasonable use
of';
(2) in paragraph (4), after `entities' by inserting `including
soliciting and receiving comments over computer networks';
(3) by designating the current text as subsection (a); and
(4) by adding the following:
`(b) Prior to publication of an initial regulatory flexibility
analysis which a covered agency is required to conduct by
this chapter--
`(1) a covered agency shall notify the Chief Counsel for
Advocacy of the Small Business Administration and provide
the Chief Counsel with information on the potential impacts
of the proposed rule on small entities and the type of small
entities that might be affected;
`(2) not later than 15 days after the date of receipt of
the materials described in paragraph (1), the Chief Counsel
shall identify individuals representative of affected small
entities for the purpose of obtaining advice and recommendations
from those individuals about the potential impacts of the
proposed rule;
`(3) the agency shall convene a review panel for such rule
consisting wholly of full time Federal employees of the office
within the agency responsible for carrying out the proposed
rule, the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs within
the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief Counsel;
`(4) the panel shall review any material the agency has prepared
in connection with this chapter, including any draft proposed
rule, collect advice and recommendations of each individual
small entity representative identified by the agency after
consultation with the Chief Counsel, on issues related to
subsections 603(b), paragraphs (3), (4) and (5) and 603(c);
`(5) not later than 60 days after the date a covered agency
convenes a review panel pursuant to paragraph (3), the review
panel shall report on the comments of the small entity representatives
and its findings as to issues related to subsections 603(b),
paragraphs (3), (4) and (5) and 603(c), provided that such
report shall be made public as part of the rulemaking record;
and
`(6) where appropriate, the agency shall modify the proposed
rule, the initial regulatory flexibility analysis or the decision
on whether an initial regulatory flexibility analysis is required.
`(c) An agency may in its discretion apply subsection (b)
to rules that the agency intends to certify under subsection
605(b), but the agency believes may have a greater than de
minimis impact on a substantial number of small entities.
`(d) For purposed of this section, the term covered agency
means the Environmental Protection Agency and the Occupational
Safety and Health Administration of the Department of Labor.
`(e) The Chief Counsel for Advocacy, in consultation with
the individuals identified in subsection (b)(2), and with
the Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory
Affairs within the Office of Management and Budget, may waive
the requirements of subsections (b)(3), (b)(4), and (b)(5)
by including in the rulemaking record a written finding, with
reasons therefor, that those requirements would not advance
the effective participation of small entities in the rulemaking
process. For purposes of this subsection, the factors to be
considered in making such a finding are as follows:
`(1) In developing a proposed rule, the extent to which the
covered agency consulted with individuals representative of
affected small entities with respect to the potential impacts
of the rule and took such concerns into consideration.
`(2) Special circumstances requiring prompt issuance of the
rule.
`(3) Whether the requirements of subsection (b) would provide
the individuals identified in subsection (b)(2) with a competitive
advantage relative to other small entities.'.
(b) Small Business Advocacy Chairpersons: Not later than 30
days after the date of enactment of this Act, the head of
each covered agency that has conducted a final regulatory
flexibility analysis shall designate a small business advocacy
chairperson using existing personnel to the extent possible,
to be responsible for implementing this section and to act
as permanent chair of the agency's review panels established
pursuant to this section.
SEC. 345. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This subtitle shall become effective on the expiration of
90 days after the date of enactment of this subtitle, except
that such amendments shall not apply to interpretative rules
for which a notice of proposed rulemaking was published prior
to the date of enactment.
Subtitle E--Congressional Review
SEC. 351. CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW OF AGENCY RULEMAKING.
Title 5, United States Code, is amended by inserting immediately
after chapter 7 the following new chapter:
`CHAPTER 8--CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW OF AGENCY RULEMAKING
`Sec.
`801. Congressional review.
`802. Congressional disapproval procedure.
`803. Special rule on statutory, regulatory, and judicial
deadlines.
`804. Definitions.
`805. Judicial review.
`806. Applicability; severability.
`807. Exemption for monetary policy.
`808. Effective date of certain rules.
`801. Congressional review
`(a)(1)(A) Before a rule can take effect, the Federal agency
promulgating such rule shall submit to each House of the Congress
and to the Comptroller General a report containing--
`(i) a copy of the rule;
`(ii) a concise general statement relating to the rule, including
whether it is a major rule; and
`(iii) the proposed effective date of the rule.
`(B) On the date of the submission of the report under subparagraph
(A), the Federal agency promulgating the rule shall submit
to the Comptroller General and make available to each House
of Congress--
`(i) a complete copy of the cost-benefit analysis of the
rule, if any;
`(ii) the agency's actions relevant to sections 603, 604,
605, 607, and 609;
`(iii) the agency's actions relevant to sections 202, 203,
204, and 205 of the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act of 1995;
and
`(iv) any other relevant information or requirements under
any other Act and any relevant Executive Orders.
`(C) Upon receipt of a report submitted under subparagraph
(A), each House shall provide copies of the report to the
Chairman and Ranking Member of each standing committee with
jurisdiction under the rules of the House of Representatives
or the Senate to report a bill to amend the provision of law
under which the rule is issued.
`(2)(A) The Comptroller General shall provide a report on
each major rule to the committees of jurisdiction in each
House of the Congress by the end of 15 calendar days after
the submission or publication date as provided in section
802(b)(2). The report of the Comptroller General shall include
an assessment of the agency's compliance with procedural steps
required by paragraph (1)(B).
`(B) Federal agencies shall cooperate with the Comptroller
General by providing information relevant to the Comptroller
General's report under subparagraph (A).
`(3) A major rule relating to a report submitted under paragraph
(1) shall take effect on the latest of--
`(A) the later of the date occurring 60 days after the date
on which--
`(i) the Congress receives the report submitted under paragraph
(1); or
`(ii) the rule is published in the Federal Register, if so
published;
`(B) if the Congress passes a joint resolution of disapproval
described in section 802 relating to the rule, and the President
signs a veto of such resolution, the earlier date--
`(i) on which either House of Congress votes and fails to
override the veto of the President; or
`(ii) occurring 30 session days after the date on which the
Congress received the veto and objections of the President;
or
`(C) the date the rule would have otherwise taken effect,
if not for this section (unless a joint resolution of disapproval
under section 802 is enacted).
`(4) Except for a major rule, a rule shall take effect as
otherwise provided by law after submission to Congress under
paragraph (1).
`(5) Notwithstanding paragraph (3), the effective date of
a rule shall not be delayed by operation of this chapter beyond
the date on which either House of Congress votes to reject
a joint resolution of disapproval under section 802.
`(b)(1) A rule shall not take effect (or continue), if the
Congress enacts a joint resolution of disapproval, described
under section 802, of the rule.
`(2) A rule that does not take effect (or does not continue)
under paragraph (1) may not be reissued in substantially the
same form, and a new rule that is substantially the same as
such a rule may not be issued, unless the reissued or new
rule is specifically authorized by a law enacted after the
date of the joint resolution disapproving the original rule.
`(c)(1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section
(except subject to paragraph (3)), a rule that would not take
effect by reason of subsection (a)(3) may take effect, if
the President makes a determination under paragraph (2) and
submits written notice of such determination to the Congress.
`(2) Paragraph (1) applies to a determination made by the
President by Executive Order that the rule should take effect
because such rule is--
`(A) necessary because of an imminent threat to health or
safety or other emergency;
`(B) necessary for the enforcement of criminal laws;
`(C) necessary for national security; or
`(D) issued pursuant to any statute implementing an international
trade agreement.
`(3) An exercise by the President of the authority under this
subsection shall have no effect on the procedures under section
802 or the effect of a joint resolution of disapproval under
this section.
`(d)(1) In addition to the opportunity for review otherwise
provided under this chapter, in the case of any rule for which
a report was submitted in accordance with subsection (a)(1)(A)
during the period beginning on the date occurring--
`(A) in the case of the Senate, 60 session days, or
`(B) in the case of the House of Representatives, 60 legislative
days,
before the date the Congress adjourns a session of Congress
through the date on which the same or succeeding Congress
first convenes its next session, section 802 shall apply to
such rule in the succeeding session of Congress.
`(2)(A) In applying section 802 for purposes of such additional
review, a rule described under paragraph (1) shall be treated
as though--
`(i) such rule were published in the Federal Register (as
a rule that shall take effect) on--
`(I) in the case of the Senate, the 15th session day, or
`(II) in the case of the House of Representatives, the 15th
legislative day,
after the succeeding session of Congress first convenes;
and
`(ii) a report on such rule were submitted to Congress under
subsection (a)(1) on such date.
`(B) Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to affect
the requirement under subsection (a)(1) that a report shall
be submitted to Congress before a rule can take effect.
`(3) A rule described under paragraph (1) shall take effect
as otherwise provided by law (including other subsections
of this section).
`(e)(1) For purposes of this subsection, section 802 shall
also apply to any major rule promulgated between March 1,
1996, and the date of the enactment of this chapter.
`(2) In applying section 802 for purposes of Congressional
review, a rule described under paragraph (1) shall be treated
as though--
`(A) such rule were published in the Federal Register on
the date of enactment of this chapter; and
`(B) a report on such rule were submitted to Congress under
subsection (a)(1) on such date.
`(3) The effectiveness of a rule described under paragraph
(1) shall be as otherwise provided by law, unless the rule
is made of no force or effect under section 802.
`(f) Any rule that takes effect and later is made of no force
or effect by enactment of a joint resolution under section
802 shall be treated as though such rule had never taken effect.
`(g) If the Congress does not enact a joint resolution of
disapproval under section 802 respecting a rule, no court
or agency may infer any intent of the Congress from any action
or inaction of the Congress with regard to such rule, related
statute, or joint resolution of disapproval.
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`802. Congressional disapproval procedure
`(a) For purposes of this section, the term `joint resolution'
means only a joint resolution introduced in the period beginning
on the date on which the report referred to in section 801(a)(1)(A)
is received by Congress and ending 60 days thereafter (excluding
days either House of Congress is adjourned for more than 3
days during a session of Congress), the matter after the resolving
clause of which is as follows: `That Congress disapproves
the rule submitted by the XX relating to XX, and such rule
shall have no force or effect.' (The blank spaces being appropriately
filled in).
`(b)(1) A joint resolution described in subsection (a) shall
be referred to the committees in each House of Congress with
jurisdiction.
`(2) For purposes of this section, the term `submission or
publication date' means the later of the date on which--
`(A) the Congress receives the report submitted under section
801(a)(1); or
`(B) the rule is published in the Federal Register, if so
published.
`(c) In the Senate, if the committee to which is referred
a joint resolution described in subsection (a) has not reported
such joint resolution (or an identical joint resolution) at
the end of 20 calendar days after the submission or publication
date defined under subsection (b)(2), such committee may be
discharged from further consideration of such joint resolution
upon a petition supported in writing by 30 Members of the
Senate, and such joint resolution shall be placed on the calendar.
`(d)(1) In the Senate, when the committee to which a joint
resolution is referred has reported, or when a committee is
discharged (under subsection (c)) from further consideration
of a joint resolution described in subsection (a), it is at
any time thereafter in order (even though a previous motion
to the same effect has been disagreed to) for a motion to
proceed to the consideration of the joint resolution, and
all points of order against the joint resolution (and against
consideration of the joint resolution) are waived. The motion
is not subject to amendment, or to a motion to postpone, or
to a motion to proceed to the consideration of other business.
A motion to reconsider the vote by which the motion is agreed
to or disagreed to shall not be in order. If a motion to proceed
to the consideration of the joint resolution is agreed to,
the joint resolution shall remain the unfinished business
of the Senate until disposed of.
`(2) In the Senate, debate on the joint resolution, and on
all debatable motions and appeals in connection therewith,
shall be limited to not more than 10 hours, which shall be
divided equally between those favoring and those opposing
the joint resolution. A motion further to limit debate is
in order and not debatable. An amendment to, or a motion to
postpone, or a motion to proceed to the consideration of other
business, or a motion to recommit the joint resolution is
not in order.
`(3) In the Senate, immediately following the conclusion of
the debate on a joint resolution described in subsection (a),
and a single quorum call at the conclusion of the debate if
requested in accordance with the rules of the Senate, the
vote on final passage of the joint resolution shall occur.
`(4) Appeals from the decisions of the Chair relating to the
application of the rules of the Senate to the procedure relating
to a joint resolution described in subsection (a) shall be
decided without debate.
`(e) In the Senate the procedure specified in subsection (c)
or (d) shall not apply to the consideration of a joint resolution
respecting a rule--
`(1) after the expiration of the 60 session days beginning
with the applicable submission or publication date, or
`(2) if the report under section 801(a)(1)(A) was submitted
during the period referred to in section 801(d)(1), after
the expiration of the 60 session days beginning on the 15th
session day after the succeeding session of Congress first
convenes.
`(f) If, before the passage by one House of a joint resolution
of that House described in subsection (a), that House receives
from the other House a joint resolution described in subsection
(a), then the following procedures shall apply:
`(1) The joint resolution of the other House shall not be
referred to a committee.
`(2) With respect to a joint resolution described in subsection
(a) of the House receiving the joint resolution--
`(A) the procedure in that House shall be the same as if
no joint resolution had been received from the other House;
but
`(B) the vote on final passage shall be on the joint resolution
of the other House.
`(g) This section is enacted by Congress--
`(1) as an exercise of the rulemaking power of the Senate
and House of Representatives, respectively, and as such it
is deemed a part of the rules of each House, respectively,
but applicable only with respect to the procedure to be followed
in that House in the case of a joint resolution described
in subsection (a), and it supersedes other rules only to the
extent that it is inconsistent with such rules; and
`(2) with full recognition of the constitutional right of
either House to change the rules (so far as relating to the
procedure of that House) at any time, in the same manner,
and to the same extent as in the case of any other rule of
that House.
`803. Special rule on statutory, regulatory, and judicial
deadlines
`(a) In the case of any deadline for, relating to, or involving
any rule which does not take effect (or the effectiveness
of which is terminated) because of enactment of a joint resolution
under section 802, that deadline is extended until the date
1 year after the date of enactment of the joint resolution.
Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to affect a
deadline merely by reason of the postponement of a rule's
effective date under section 801(a).
`(b) The term `deadline' means any date certain for fulfilling
any obligation or exercising any authority established by
or under any Federal statute or regulation, or by or under
any court order implementing any Federal statute or regulation.
`804. Definitions
`For purposes of this chapter--
`(1) The term `Federal agency' means any agency as that term
is defined in section 551(1).
`(2) The term `major rule' means any rule that the Administrator
of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs of the
Office of Management and Budget finds has resulted in or is
likely to result in--
`(A) an annual effect on the economy of $100,000,000 or more;
`(B) a major increase in costs or prices for consumers, individual
industries, Federal, State, or local government agencies,
or geographic regions; or
`(C) significant adverse effects on competition, employment,
investment, productivity, innovation, or on the ability of
United States-based enterprises to compete with foreign-based
enterprises in domestic and export markets.
The term does not include any rule promulgated under the
Telecommunications Act of 1996 and the amendments made by
that Act.
`(3) The term `rule' has the meaning given such term in section
551, except that such term does not include--
`(A) any rule of particular applicability, including a rule
that approves or prescribes for the future rates, wages, prices,
services, or allowances therefor, corporate or financial structures,
reorganizations, mergers, or acquisitions thereof, or accounting
practices or disclosures bearing on any of the foregoing;
`(B) any rule relating to agency management or personnel;
or
`(C) any rule of agency organization, procedure, or practice
that does not substantially affect the rights or obligations
of non-agency parties.
`805. Judicial review
`No determination, finding, action, or omission under this
chapter shall be subject to judicial review.
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`806. Applicability; severability
`(a) This chapter shall apply notwithstanding any other provision
of law.
`(b) If any provision of this chapter or the application of
any provision of this chapter to any person or circumstance,
is held invalid, the application of such provision to other
persons or circumstances, and the remainder of this chapter,
shall not be affected thereby.
`807. Exemption for monetary policy
`Nothing in this chapter shall apply to rules that concern
monetary policy proposed or implemented by the Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System or the Federal Open Market Committee.
`808. Effective date of certain rules
`Notwithstanding section 801--
`(1) any rule that establishes, modifies, opens, closes,
or conducts a regulatory program for a commercial, recreational,
or subsistence activity related to hunting, fishing, or camping,
or
`(2) any rule which an agency for good cause finds (and incorporates
the finding and a brief statement of reasons therefor in the
rule issued) that notice and public procedure thereon are
impracticable, unnecessary, or contrary to the public interest,
shall take effect at such time as the Federal agency promulgating
the rule determines.'.
SEC. 352. EFFECTIVE DATE.
The amendment made by section 351 shall take effect on the
date of enactment of this Act.
SEC. 353. TECHNICAL AMENDMENT.
The table of chapters for part I of title 5, United States
Code, is amended by inserting immediately after the item relating
to chapter 7 the following:
`8. Congressional Review of Agency Rulemaking
801'.
TITLE IV--PUBLIC DEBT LIMIT
SEC. 401. INCREASE IN PUBLIC DEBT LIMIT.
Subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States
Code, is amended by striking the dollar limitation contained
in such subsection and inserting `$5,500,000,000,000'.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 391,
as amended, the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer] will be
recognized for 30 minutes, the gentleman from Florida [Mr.
Gibbons] will be recognized for 30 minutes, the gentleman
from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger] will be recognized for 10
minutes, and the gentlewoman from New York [Ms. Slaughter],
the designee of the ranking minority member, will be recognized
for 10 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer].
GENERAL LEAVE
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all
Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise
and extend their remarks on and include extraneous material
on the bill H.R. 3136.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request
of the gentleman from Texas?
There was no objection.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 3136,
the Contract With America Advancement Act of 1996. This legislation
contains the Senior Citizens' Right to Work Act, the Line-Item-Veto
Act, the Small Business Growth and Fairness Act of 1996, and
provides for a permanent increase in the public debt limit.
Let me first compliment Chairmen Solomon, Clinger, and Bunning,
and the rest of the line-item-veto conferees for their hard
work. As the original author of line-item-veto legislation
at the request of President Reagan, I am a true believer in
the line-item veto. I know that it will help control spending
and therefore aid us in obtaining a balanced budget. Accordingly,
I welcome its inclusion in H.R. 3136.
I am also proud that the Senior Citizens' Right to Work Act
will be included in this legislation. It is another of my
career-long projects--one which I began working on with former
Senator Goldwater in the early 1970's. As you know the House
has already approved this measure by a large bipartisan vote
of 411 to 4 last December 5. It would raise the earnings limit
for seniors between the ages of 65 and 69 to $30,000 by the
year 2002, while fully preserving the long-term financial
integrity of the Social Security trust funds. In fact, according
to the Social Security actuaries, this bill improves the long-range
solvency of the trust funds by a significant amount.
This legislation is also strongly supported by a broad group
of seniors' associations, including the AARP.
We all know that the current earnings limit is too low and
is nothing more than a tax on hard-working seniors.
In our Contract With America, we promised to raise the earnings
limit which discourages older workers from remaining in the
work force and sharing their experience, knowledge, and skills
with younger workers. Today, we take another important step
in fulfilling that promise by providing relief from the onerous
earnings limit to almost 1 million senior citizens who want
or need to work. Again, I want to compliment Social Security
Subcommittee Chairman Jim Bunning and Whip Denny Hastert for
their outstanding efforts on this legislation. They have been
untiring in their work on this project.
Mr. Speaker, H.R. 3136 also includes another important element
of our Contract With America, regulatory relief for small
business. This is a vital element of the bill, and I believe
Chairman Hyde will be speaking on it in more detail.
Finally, H.R. 3136 contains an increase in the permanent
statutory debt ceiling from its current level of $4.9 trillion
to $5.5 trillion. This amount should provide the Government
with enough authority to operate through fiscal year 1997.
This is the level including in the Balanced Budget Act, and
sought by the Treasury Department. We have receive correspondence
from Treasury expressing their support for the provision.
This is a straightforward debt limit extension. As you know,
we need to pass this legislation quickly as the current temporary
limit expires tomorrow.
Section 107 of this legislation codifies Congress' understanding
that the Secretary of Treasury and other Federal officials
are not authorized to use Social Security and Medicare funds
for debt management purposes under any circumstances. Specifically,
the Secretary of the Treasury and other Federal officials
are required not to delay or otherwise underinvest incoming
receipts to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds.
They are also required not to sell, redeem or otherwise disinvest
securities, obligations or other assets of these trust funds
except when necessary to provide for the payment of benefits
and administrative expenses of these programs. The legislation
applies to the following trust funds: Federal Old-Age and
Survivors Insurance [OASI] Trust Fund; Federal Hospital Insurance
[HI] Trust Fund; and Federal Supplementary Medical Insurance
[SMI] Trust Fund.
Since late October, the total amount of public debt obligations
has been very close to the public debt limit. This has given
rise to concerns that the Social Security and Medicare trust
funds might be underinvested or disinvested for debt management
purposes. While the administration has stated that it would
not take such action, it is desirable to make clear in law
that these funds could not be used for debt management purposes.
It is the purpose of this legislation to clarify that any
limitation on the public debt shall not be used as an excuse
to avoid the full and timely investment of the Social Security
trust funds. The Secretary, by law, is the managing trustee
of these trust funds, and also the chief financial officer
of the U.S. Government charged with its day-to-day cash management.
As such, he shall take all necessary steps to ensure the full
and timely investment of the Social Security and Medicare
trust funds.
This bill seeks to assure that the Secretary of the Treasury
and other Federal officials shall invest and disinvest Social
Security and Medicare trust funds solely for the purposes
of accounting for the income and disbursements of these programs.
There are no circumstances envisioned under which the investments
of the trust funds will not be made in a timely fashion in
accordance with the normal investment practices of the Treasury,
or under which the trust funds are drawn down prematurely
for the purpose of avoiding limitations on the public debt
or to make room under the statutory debt limit for the Secretary
of the Treasury to issue new debt obligations in order to
cover the expenditures of the Government.
Mr. Speaker, this is an excellent bill, which advances many
important elements of our Contract With America, keeping our
promises to the American people. I urge my colleagues on both
sides of the aisle to support it today.
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Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentlewoman
from California [Ms. Harman].
PERSONAL EXPLANATION
Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I was in my district yesterday on
official business. Had I been present, I would have voted
`no' on the rule and `no' on passage of H.R. 1833, the partial
birth abortion bill; `yes' on the passage of House Resolution
379; and `yes' on the passage of House Concurrent Resolution
102.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman
from Indiana [Mr. Jacobs].
Mr. JACOBS. Mr. Speaker, this is a paradox day in the U.S.
House of Representatives. We are going to raise the earnings
limit under Social Security immediately from about $11,000
a year to $14,000 or so a year, I believe, and that will,
on average, mean an income of about $20,000 for a Social Security
retiree. That is a very good thing to do.
The paradox is, at the same time we are not going to be doing
anything about the minimum wage. So what are we saying in
essence? We are saying that the person who is retired and
might work part time needs $24,000 a year, but the young person
who is working every day of the week and working hard, maybe
digging ditches, and has children to support can get by just
fine on $8,840 a year. So I want to congratulate my colleagues
on a sense of humor, I suppose, and a wonderful paradox.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume
to the gentlewoman from Idaho [Mrs. Chenoweth].
(Mrs. CHENOWETH asked and was given permission to revise
and extend her remarks.)
Mrs. CHENOWETH. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to H.R.
3136.
Mr. Speaker, I strongly support increasing the Social Security
earnings limit. The current earnings limit of $11,280 hurts
low-to-moderate-income seniors who work out of necessity,
not choice.
Our Nation achieved unprecedented wealth and power because
of the strong work ethic, self-reliance, and personal responsibility
of today's senior citizens. They are the generation that built
this Nation. To punish these productive, industrious seniors,
who are the ones that made America great is absolutely absurd.
All Americans lose when the earnings limit prevents us from
employing the teaching and experience of our Nation's most
precious resource.
Let me also say I support wholeheartedly empowering small
businesses to challenge burdensome regulations. In fact, observation
of the catastrophic effects extraneous regulations have on
small businesses and property owners was a major motivation
for my seeking office.
We should pass legislation to increase the Social Security
earnings limit, and to empower small business, and I hope
we do it soon. However, I must vote against this measure today
because I simply cannot support what would be a monumental
mistake that would be made by this Congress if we hand over
legislative powers to the president in the form of a line-item
veto.
Mr. Speaker, let me first say that I believe that a line
item veto could be effective in eliminating wasteful port.
However, I strongly believe that the consequences of shifting
the delicate power balance of between the executive and legislative
branches of government would far outweigh any advantages gained
by this measure.
Let me remind you of Alexander Hamilton's stern warning in
Federalist No. 76 of why we must keep the powers given respectively
to the legislature and executive branches of government separate:
Without the one or the other the former would be unable to
defend himself against the depredations of that latter. (The
Legislature) might gradually be stripped of his authorities
by successive resolutions. . .
And in one mode or the other, the legislative and executive
powers might speedily come to be blended in the same hands.
Mr. Speaker, the Constitution specifically gives the power
of the purse to the people, which are represented in the Congress.
Let us not give that sacred responsibility away to the President
because we as a Congress do not have the discipline to make
necessary spending cuts. The more powers we give to the executive
to control the spending of taxpayer dollars, the less we will
have of a representative government our Founding Fathers envisioned.
Mr. Speaker, I strongly believe that the Congress will regret
the day that we surrender this tremendous power to the executive.
I urge my colleagues to stand back and take a hard look at
what we are doing today, and whether it is really worth giving
away power that rightfully belongs to this, the people's House.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman
from Illinois [Mr. Hyde], the highly respected chairman of
the Committee on the Judiciary.
(Mr. HYDE asked and was given permission to revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 3136, and
particularly title III of that bill, the Small Business Regulatory
Enforcement Fairness Act of 1996.
Title III, as amended by the rule, is patterned after the
provisions of S. 942, legislation sponsored by Senator Christopher
Bond of Missouri, which passed the Senate on March 19 by the
vote of 100 to 0. It would provide important regulatory relief
for America's small businesses.
This measure is vitally important to the small business community,
which is particularly burdened by the effect of multiple,
and many times conflicting, regulatory requirements. It should
be viewed not as a total solution to all regulatory problems,
but as a good first step of making rules more fair, more rational,
and more carefully tailored to achieve the goal they are designed
to accomplish.
First, title III proposes important changes in the Regulatory
Flexibility Act, allowing judicial review of certain aspects
of that statute. The Regulatory Flexibility Act was first
enacted in 1980. Under its terms, Federal agencies are directed
to consider the special needs and concerns of small entities--that
is, small businesses, local governments, farmers, and so forth,
whenever they engage in a rulemaking subject to the Administrative
Procedure Act. The agencies must then prepare and publish
a regulatory flexibility analysis of the impact of the proposed
rule on small entities, unless the head of the agency certifies
that the proposed rule will not `have a significant economic
impact on a substantial number of small entities.'
From the beginning, the problem with this law has been the
lack of availability of a judicial reviews mechanism to enforce
the purposes of the law. Right now, if agencies do not actually
conduct a regulatory flexibility analysis or fail to follow
the other procedures set down in the act, there is no sanction.
Thus, under current law, the small business community has
no remedy.
Title III would cure this problem. In instances where an
agency should have undertaken a regulatory flexibility analysis
and did not, or where the agency needs to take corrective
action with respect to a flexibility analysis that was prepared,
small entities are authorized to seek judicial review within
1 year after final agency action. A court will then review
the agency's action under the judicial review provisions of
the Administrative Procedure Act. The remedies that a court
may order include remanding the rule back to the agency and
deferring enforcement of the rule against small entities,
pending agency compliance with the Regulatory Flexibility
Act.
Another important aspect of title III is the congressional
review procedure. This will allow Congress to review all proposed
rules to determine whether or not they should take effect.
Specifically, title III would allow Congress to postpone for
60 days the implementation of any major rule, generally defined
as having an annual effect on the economy of $100 million
or more. The language allows the President to bypass the 60-day
delay through the issuance of an Executive order, if the rule
addresses an imminent threat to the public health or safety,
or other emergency, or matters involving criminal law enforcement
or national security.
This legislation was developed by Senator Don Nickles and
Senator Harry Reid. My Judiciary Committee staff has worked
very closely with Senator Nickles' staff concerning the details
of this provision.
I think it is important to emphasize that this approach means
that Congress must be prepared to take on greater responsibility
in the rulemaking process. If during the review period, Congress
identifies problems in a proposed major rule prior to its
promulgation, we must be prepared to take action. Each standing
committee will have to carefully monitor the regulatory activities
of those agencies falling within their jurisdiction.
Title III also includes a provision which will require Federal
agencies to simplify forms and publish a plain English guide
to help small businesses comply with Federal regulations.
These compliance guides will not be subject to judicial review,
but may be
considered as evidence of the reasonableness of any proposed
fines or penalties. Federal agencies would also be directed
to reduce or waive fines for small businesses in appropriate
circumstances, if violations are corrected within a certain
period.
The proposal would also create an ombudsman within the Small
Business Administration to gather information from small businesses
about compliance and enforcement practices, and to work with
the various agencies so as to respond to the concerns of small
businesses regarding those practices.
In addition, some important changes would be made in the
Equal Access to Justice Act. The Equal Access to Justice Act
[EAJA] currently provides that certain parties who prevail
over the Federal Government in regulatory or court proceedings
are entitled to an award in attorneys' fees and other expenses,
unless the Government can demonstrate that its position was
substantially justified or that special circumstances would
make the award unjust. Eligible parties are individuals whose
net worth does not exceed $2 million or businesses, organizations,
associations, or units of local government with a net worth
of no more than $7 million and no more than 500 employees.
The act covers both adversary administrative proceedings and
civil court actions.
Title III proposes to change the Equal Access to Justice
Act so as to make it easier for small businesses to recover
their attorneys fees, if they have been subjected to excessive
and unsustainable proposed penalties. It would amend the EAJA
to create a new avenue for small entities to recover their
attorneys fees in situations where the Government has instituted
an administrative or civil action against a small entity to
enforce a statutory or regulatory requirement. In these situations,
the test for recovering attorneys' fees would become whether
the final demand of the United States, prior to the initiation
of the adjudication or civil action, was substantially in
excess of the decision or judgment ultimately obtained and
is unreasonable when compared to such decision or judgment.
The important point here is that this legislation will level
the playing field and make it far more likely that the United
States will not seek excessive fines or penalties from small
businesses and will be more likely to make fair settlement
offers prior to proceeding with a formal regulatory enforcement
action or before going to court to collect the civil fine
or penalty.
Mr. Speaker, I have only described in very general terms
today the substance of this important title. Because the language
is the product of negotiation and compromise with the Senate,
there is no formal legislative history available to explain
its terms. To cure this deficiency, I will be inserting in
the Congressional Record at a later date a document which
will serve as the equivalent of a statement of managers. The
same document will be submitted to the Record in the Senate.
It is the committee's intent that that document carry the
weight of legislative history regarding title III of H.R.
3136.
Mr. Speaker, this legislation represents an important and
significant step toward removing unnecessary and unduly burdensome
regulations from the backs of small businesses. I urge my
colleagues to support H.R. 3136 and look forward to its prompt
passage and it being signed into law.
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Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman
from Hawaii [Mr. Abercrombie].
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I rise to speak against H.R.
3136. My opposition stems not from a desire to prevent the
needed increase in the debt limit, nor do I oppose the increase
in the Social Security earnings limit contained in section
4, a proposition I supported with my vote in favor of H.R.
2684 last December.
Rather, my objection, Mr. Speaker, is to the measure before
us, which rests on my adamant opposition to the line-item
veto provisions of section 3. The line-item veto is not about
money as such. It is about power, specifically the balance
of power between the executive and legislative branches of
the Federal Government. This has nothing to do with Republicans
and Democrats. It has nothing to do with the contract except
the contract we should be keeping with history that provided
for our constitutional democracy to be able to sustain a balance
between the executive and the legislative. It assumes that
the executive branch, compared to the legislature, is inherently
inclined to restrain spending. In fact, however, congressional
appropriations have been lower than the amounts requested
by the past three Presidents, Democrat and Republican alike.
In denying Congress the authority to single out proposed rescissions
for individual consideration, H.R. 3136 denies to the Congress
an authority it grants to the President.
If the President can unilaterally veto individual items in
a single bill, why is Congress required to sustain or override
those vetoes as an indivisible package? Why is Congress denied
the authority, why are we denying ourselves the authority
to judge each veto cast by the President? The upshot is more
power for the executive branch, less for the legislature.
By giving the President power to veto specific tax and appropriation
items within a single bill, H.R. 3136 deprives the legislative
branch of its share of its ability to strike a compromise
with the executive.
Mr. Speaker, it upsets the carefully calibrated balance between
the legislative and executive branches of Government. That
balance is what inclines our political system to compromise.
Look at what is happening in the rest of the world where the
executive has exclusive authority. I know I am going to be
among the few votes that is going to be cast today. What I
regret is, and this has happened before in our legislative
history, there will be a few who will try to strike a balance
to keep the power of the legislature against the executive,
and one day there will be a Ph.D. writing a thesis about it,
how we gave up our power, how we gave up the balance of power
that exists in our democracy. Vote `no' on 3136.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman
from Kentucky [Mr. Bunning], the respected chairman of the
Subcommittee on Social Security of the Committee on Ways and
Means.
(Mr. BUNNING of Kentucky asked and was given permission to
revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. BUNNING of Kentucky. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman
for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, hopefully the third time around will be the
charm and the Social Security earnings limit will be passed.
I want to thank Dennis Hastert, the deputy whip, and all the
Republican Members of the 100th Congress class, because this
has been a class project for over 8 years.
Mr. Speaker, the House has twice passed legislation to increase
this onerous earnings limit in the 104th Congress, but lack
of Senate action has kept this measure off the President's
desk.
I have a very good feeling that the tide has turned and our
colleagues in the other body want to see this done as much
as we do.
I want to commend the House and Senate leadership for working
with the Ways and Means Committee and the Finance Committee
to make the earnings limit increase part of the debt limit
legislation.
We have worked out a fair bill which makes good policy while
actually improving the financial integrity of the Social Security
trust funds.
By increasing the earnings limit on working senior citizens,
we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the Contract With
America to bring economic relief to older workers.
The earnings limit is a depression-era relic that has outlived
its usefulness. Older workers have a great deal of knowledge
and experience and our country needs the skills of experienced
workers. The current limit is unrealistically low and sends
the message that the Federal Government does not want seniors
to continue working and contributing.
Today's older Americans are living longer and healthier.
They want to continue contributing to society, but they have
to ask themselves if it is worth losing a good part of their
Social Security benefits to do so.
In most cases, the answer is `No.' By discouraging skilled
older workers from working, we are forgoing one of society's
greatest resources--experienced workers--a commodity every
employer in the United States needs and values.
The earnings limit is particularly harsh on lower to middle-income
seniors who must work to supplement their Social Security
benefits.
Approximately 1 million working seniors have some or all
of their benefits withheld because of the current earnings
limit. These are not wealthy working seniors.
These are seniors who do not have substantial pensions, investments
or savings to supplement their Social Security checks.
The earnings limit is nothing less than a tax on work. Seniors
need and deserve some tax relief. I urge my colleagues to
join me in making this long overdue change to increase the
earnings limit to $30,000.
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Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman
from Utah [Mr. Orton].
(Mr. ORTON asked and was given permission to revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, I voted against the rule on this
particular bill, not because I oppose the provisions of the
bill in general but in specific, I have a problem with one
provision on line-item veto.
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I am a long-time supporter of the line-item veto. That is
an issue which has not been partisan. It is an issue that
the administration has asked for. I have supported it, and
many on both sides of the aisle have supported it. The concern
I have is that the line-item veto, under this bill, will not
go into effect when we pass the bill. It will not go into
effect until the end of the current term of this President.
This President is a Democrat. This Congress is controlled
by Republicans. That looks to the public like business as
usual, like the Republicans are afraid to give a Democratic
President the authority to veto specific items of pork.
It is not like we do not have a problem ongoing with park-barrel
spending. I have in my hand the Citizens Against Government
Waste's 1996 Congressional Pig Book. In that they identify
$12.5 billion in just 8 appropriation bills that we passed
in 1996, 8 of the 13, $12.5 billion of pork.
We passed in February 1995 through this House and in March
through the other body a line-item veto bill. It took 6 months
to even appoint conferees. Now we finally have the line-item
veto coming to passage as part of this bill. It is too late
for 1996 and these billions of dollars. Under this bill, it
is too late for 1997 as well.
Did they believe that, by passing line-item veto, there would
only be Republican Presidents in the future? A Democratic
President would not be eligible to use the line-item veto?
Well, I am going to put into the record statements by the
majority leader of the House, majority leader in the Senate
and majority whip in the Senate. I am also going to put into
the Record statements by the Committee on Rules chairman and
other people on the floor of this House, saying we are not
afraid to give it to a Democrat President. Here we are giving
it, it is not just a Republican, we are giving it to him.
No, you are not, not unless he wins reelection.
So I simply believe that we ought to change one provision
in this bill. Let us make line-item veto effective immediately
upon enactment. If the President does not appropriately use
it, then Congress can challenge the President. If the President
does appropriately use it, we start cutting inappropriate
spending today rather than waiting until after the 1997 fiscal
year.
So I would urge my colleagues to revise this bill, and I
hope that we will have a motion to recommit with instructions
to do so.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 2 minutes.
As chairman of the Government Reform and Oversight Committee,
I am very pleased to rise in strong support of this measure.
Two of the provisions in this measure were initiated in the
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and we are very
proud they are part of this debt ceiling increase, because
the line-item veto goes directly to the question of trying
to hold down the debt, which we are now going to be forced
to increase today.
The previous speaker said that this was a provision that
we should give the President right now. I would point out
to the gentleman that this was a suggestion that the President
himself made. Contrary to many of the Members on the other
side of the aisle, this President, our President, supports
the line-item veto and supports the date that has been selected.
I would also point out he does have within his own power
the key to unlock this provision and make it effective today,
and that would be if he would agree to a balanced budget agreement.
That is, as I say, in his power.
We had a lot of trouble reconciling the many differences,
frankly, that existed between the Senate and the House. Many
in this room will remember how vast those differences were.
But we were able, in the final analysis, to come to agreement.
It was a bipartisan bicameral agreement. There are Members
on both sides who support strongly the provision of the line-item
veto. There are Members on both sides, frankly, who disagree
with the line-item veto.
The intent of the legislation, Mr. Speaker, is to provide
the President a tool, only a tool, to approach this question
of deficit reduction. We have provided it not just for the
appropriations process, which would only get at about 30 percent
of the spending, we have also provided it for entitlements.
We have provided it for targeted tax preferences which have
been so abused in the past. The President is going to have
a broad authority and broad ability to deal with the deficit
and to deal with the debt, which has been spiraling out of
control.
I would point out it is important to note, consistent with
the demand of both Houses in the conference, the conference
report does not allow the President to strike any restriction,
condition, or limitation on how funds may be spent. It is
limited to whole dollar amounts. No policy can be changed
as a result of this.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman
from Utah [Mr. Orton].
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, just in response to my friend who
just mentioned that it was the President who asked for this,
yes, the President asked for line-item veto. The President
did not ask for line-item veto to be until after the new year
of 1997. It was offered by the majority leader, Senator Dole,
to be available then, and the President said he wanted line-item
veto, he would be willing to accept it and would accept it
under those terms.
It was not the President suggesting to delay line-item veto
until 1997. The President did accept it, but he has asked
for it consistently to be effective immediately, and I have
a letter so stating.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Mr. Speaker, let me explain to the Chair what I am about
to do. I am going to yield to the gentlewoman from Connecticut
[Mrs. Kennelly], then I am going to get out of the way and
let the gentlewoman from New York use her 10 minutes.
I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Connecticut [Mrs.
Kennelly].
Mrs. KENNELLY. Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to stand here
today, on March 28, 1996, because it is a good day for the
United States of America, it is a good day for the economic
security of the United States of America, it is a good day
for the financial markets of the United States of America,
but most importantly it is a good day for the full faith and
credit of the United States.
We are raising the debt limit. We should have done it 5 months
ago, but we are doing it today, and I am pleased that that
is happening.
There are those who say it did not matter if we did not raise
it when we should have 5 months ago. I have to differ because
I do not think there is any way of knowing if there were not
interest rate increases or delaying schedules of auctions
for securities, or, in fact, holding those actions for securities,
or, in fact, holding those auctions when they should have.
Having said that, I am glad today has come. There is one
disappointment I have, though, in this bill. For 19 years,
for 19 years, the blind of this country have been joined with
the elderly of this country, in being able to earn a certain
amount of money over and above the Social Security earnings
test. For some reason, the majority has decided to drop the
blind from this joint relationship with those over 65. I do
think it is too bad, because it really hurts the economic
independence of the blind in this country.
I certainly hope the majority in another time will look at
this piece of legislation. I know the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. Archer] introduced it originally. I do hope once again
we can couple the blind with those over 65 so economic independence
can be theirs also.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I
may consume.
Mr. Speaker, it is perhaps a good day but it certainly is
a strange one. I would never have thought I would be part
of a Congress of the United States that would unilaterally
hand over major parts of its power to the executive department.
To me, the strength of the Government of the United States,
as written by the Founding Fathers, was the separation of
powers, for each part of the legislative, the executive, and
the judiciary, well defined.
With the action taken here in the House and in the Senate,
we are unilaterally handing over to the President, whomever
he or she may be, the right to veto all the work that we do
here in Congress. Members of the House who have served under
Governors, who have the right of line-item veto, have told
me that in many cases it is a genteel way to commit blackmail.
Will we save money with the line-item veto? Well, consider
this scenario: Let us say there is a President who is finding
it very difficult, perhaps, to get reelected, and to get support
from the members of his party who serve in the House or in
the Senate. He would call in a delegation, perhaps mine, New
York, which is rather large, and says to us, you are not supporting
me, but I do notice here that in the bills that have been
sent to me, that there is a very critical item under New York
that has so much money. We are then, Members, confronted with
either determining whether we are going to stand pat, face
the President of the United States and tell him to forget
about it, or allow him simply to line out what is necessary
for the people that we represent.
It is possible, is it not, that under those circumstances,
that a delegation, a legislator, anyone, a leader would decide
not to spend less money, Mr. Speaker, but could be induced
to spend more? Indeed, it may be that such a President wants
more than that has been asked for; the line-item veto does
not say that in all cases that they will be going for less;
it is entirely possible that a President will ask for more.
I believe that this measure is unconstitutional, and I hope
that it will be judged so. It is a tragedy to me that this
has been added on to what is one of the most important pieces
of legislation that we have to
come before us. The threat of fiscal default hanging over
the United States of America has left a cloud over us that
should never have been there in the first place. No nation
ever talked about defaulting by choice until this time. To
put, again, a sort of genteel from of blackmail, things that
we normally would like to debate, strikes me as not the best
way to do business.
We have heard this conference report being bipartisan and
the great support that you have had on both sides of the aisle.
I think it is important to point out, Mr. Speaker, that the
conference that took place, took place only between House
and Senate Republicans. No Democrats in the House or Senate
were a part of that conference, and indeed the Democrats only
saw the conference report after it was filed. Without any
question, this side of the House had no impact whatever on
that conference report.
But in addition, this conference report goes much further
than either the House bill or the Contract With America went.
For example, it includes Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security,
and all other entitlement programs. We are now going to say
to the President, `If you do not like the increases that we
have given in Social Security, get rid of them.' We have put
Medicare and Medicaid again up to the vagaries of the President
without the ability of the people here to make the determination
for the people who sent us, the 500,000 and more in each district
who depend upon us to make those decisions, now you want to
turn these decision over to the President.
But there is one other piece that I was particularly involved
in myself during the 100 days of the Contract With America
when line-item veto was brought up. We were concerned over
on our side about the fact that in many cases it is just as
serious a drain on the Federal Treasury, in many cases, just
as much a breach of faith, to use tax policy. And we put forth
an amendment on this side to make sure that tax policy, giving
benefits to certain groups, certain persons in the United
States, would be looked at and scrutinized if the line-item
veto indeed became law. That has been narrowed to the point
of nonrecognition. Your tax-break friends are safe.
What we are saying with this bill, this line-item veto today,
is that the President may run through the bills in any way
he or she likes, taking out anything or everything
no matter the importance of it or what it may mean for the
country. However, when it comes to tax benefits and tax policy,
given to favorite constituents or constituent groups, nobody
is going to be touching that. That is going to be sacred.
Obviously, this bill is important for us to pass. Our fiscal
responsibility and our fiscal reputation depend on it, and
it is high time that the Social Security recipients receive
some attention with the fact that they have been limited in
the income that they can receive. Without jeopardizing their
Social Security.
But, Mr. Speaker, adding line-item veto to this is an abrogation
of our power. It is an abrogation of the Constitution of the
United States, and, frankly, I think that putting it on this
bill says to the Nation basically we cannot be trusted. It
is going to have to be somebody at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
to make these final decisions. That is a decision and a statement
that I personally am not willing to make.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan
[Mr. Smith].
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Mr. SMITH of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman
for yielding me this time.
I would just like to briefly carry on the discussion of how
much power has been transferred from Congress to the President.
Article I, section 9 of the Constitution says that Congress
shall control the purse strings. Article 1 of section VII
of the Constitution says that Congress shall decide how deep
we go into debt.
I bring this chart to portray the authority and responsibility
that Congress has now given away to the President of the United
States. This pie chart represents the Federal budget for this
coming year. The blue area represents the 52 percent of spending
now in these welfare entitlement programs. The spending in
those programs cannot be changed without the consent of the
President.
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It has been demonstrated now that also the administration
has the authority to go deeper in debt without the consent
of Congress.
Transferring even greater power to the administrative branch,
to the President, by saying that he will have the authority
to line out, to veto anything in an appropriation bill, is
a tremendous transfer of power.
I served under three governors while in the State legislature
in Michigan. Every one of those governors, liberal and conservative,
used the leverage of the line-item veto to get spending they
wanted. A lot of States have the line-item veto. Almost every
one of those States also have a constitutional provision that
says they have to have a balanced budget.
In the State legislature, while the Governor says `I want
to shift priorities to what I think is important spending,'
either for political purposes or for philosophic goals. In
the U.S. Government, where we do not have that kind of safeguard
of a balanced budget, there is a danger of actually increasing
spending and not decreasing spending as some presume.
During the last three decades, a lot of us wished that the
President had authority to veto spending we did not like.
But we now have a Congress that is becoming more frugal, is
being more conscientious of a balanced budget, and is more
interested in cutting. Now we are saying we are going to take
away responsibility from this Chamber, from this body and
give it to the President. This is inconsistent with what our
Founding Fathers thought was an appropriate balance. I think
this legislation could have different results than some expect.
I hope we do not see the dangers that could result from further
disrupting the balance of power.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time
to the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Barrett].
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
gentleman from Wisconsin is recognized for 1 1/2 minutes.
Mr. BARRETT of Wisconsin. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman
for yielding me the time.
Mr. Speaker, I support the line-item veto. It is a good measure,
a measure that the American people want. Why? They want the
line-item veto because they are concerned about two things.
They are concerned about pork barrel spending, and they are
concerned about special interest tax breaks.
This bill does a good job of taking care of the pork barrel
spending, but it does a lousy job of taking care of special
interest tax breaks. Why is that? It is because the people
on the Republican side of the aisle like special interest
tax breaks.
We hear on the floor day after day proponents of tax reform
from the Republican side say, `Let's have a flat tax. Let's
get rid of all these deductions. Let's get rid of all these
loopholes.'
Well, this was the opportunity to get rid of those. This
bill was the opportunity to say we do not believe in special
interest tax loopholes.
But when they came up to bat, they swung and missed. They
had no desire to give the President of the United States the
ability to get rid of special interest tax loopholes. Why
not? Because they are the gift that just keeps on giving.
You can tuck them away into a revenue bill. You do not have
to go through the appropriations process. It just keeps giving
and giving and giving.
The other irony of this entire debate is something that has
happened to me over the last year and a half when I have gone
back to my district and talked at Rotary lunches or Kiwanis
lunches. They always talk about the Presidential line-item
veto. I say, `Mark my words: We will get it, but the Republican
leadership will find a way to make sure that President Clinton
does not have the authority to get rid of their pork barrel
spending or their special interest tax loopholes in the 104th
Congress.'
The provisions we are passing today do not give the President
the ability to do it in this Congress.
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Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume
to the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Goss].
(Mr. GOSS asked and was given permission to revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in very strong support of this
legislation, noting that 43 Governors have the line-item veto.
Governor John Engler of Michigan has spoken out strongly that
it does restrain unwise spending.
Mr. Speaker, there are some supporters of line-item veto who
may have despaired of ever getting it done. I must admit that
there were days over the past 13 months when I had my doubts.
Well, in the spirit of Sean Connery I am reminded `never to
say never.' Today we fulfill a major plank in the Contract
With America and implement a powerful budget-cutting tool.
Title II of the bill before us is the text of our conference
agreement on the line-item veto. It reflects countless hours
of meetings and discussions--and an enormously good faith
effort by all the conferees to ensure that this significant
delegation of power from the Congress to the President is
effective, workable and clearly defined. The conferees understood
the magnitude of a delegation of authority of this kind. Quite
simply, it is historic. Although some of our colleagues are
fundamentally opposed to transferring such power to the President--any
President--I firmly believe that this is a legitimate and
necessary element of our battle to bring the Federal budget
under control. We have been very careful in this conference
report to carefully define our terms and the limitations that
Congress is placing on the President's use of the line-item
veto authority. The purpose of the line-item veto is to add
to our arsenal of weapons against low-priority or unnecessary
Federal spending. The goal is deficit reduction and we have
ensured that the authority applies only to money being spent.
Just as 43 Governors do today, the President, under the line-item
veto, will have the ability to cancel individual items of
spending and tax legislation if he believes doing so will
help reduce the deficit. The burden of proof will then be
on the Congress to come up with a two-thirds majority to override
the President and spend the money over his objections. If
the Congress is unable to muster that supermajority, then
the funds are not spent and are applied to deficit reduction.
The remarkable thing about this measure is that it fundamentally
shifts the bias away from spending and toward saving the taxpayers
money. That is a change that more than 70 percent of Americans
have been asking for. Americans know that when huge spending
and tax bills go to the President for his signature or veto,
often individual items of less or even questionable national
merit get carried into law by the greater good in the bill.
That costs money--lots of money--and that's what this tool
is designed to control. Our conference built upon the House
enhanced rescission model and, I believe, made it stronger
by expanding the authority beyond appropriation measures to
include new entitlements. As everyone knows, entitlement programs
are a major culprit in our current budget imbalance--and the
line-item veto should help to curb the creation of new programs
that we can't afford. The conference report also allows the
President to use his line-item veto to cancel limited tax
benefits--provisions that are slipped into the Tax Code to
benefit 100 or fewer people at a cost to the taxpayers at
large.
Mr. Speaker, our staff has spent countless hours refining
the language of this measure to ensure that we understand
the repercussions of this delegation of authority. While we
recognize the possibility for gaming of the system--by the
Congress and the executive--we have built in important safeguards,
including an 8-year sunset to allow us an opportunity to assess
the line-item veto's effectiveness. Finally, Mr. Speaker,
I point out to my colleagues that the President and the House
leadership have agreed that the effective date of this new
authority will be January 1, 1997, or enactment of a 7-year
balanced budget, whichever comes sooner. This is a practical
result that ensures sufficient time for the Executive and
Congress to consider the measure's provisions and impact.
In addition, this specified effective date allows the line-item
veto to rise above short-term political realities. I think
it is an enormously sensible decision and I applaud the President
and our leaders for it.
Mr. Speaker, last night the other body adopted this conference
report by a 69-to-31 vote. It's time for this House to deliver
a similar result.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman
from Texas [Mr. DeLay], the distinguished majority whip and
tireless leader in the battle to achieve a line-item veto.
Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for his words.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the Contract With
America Advancement Act, and I urge my colleagues to vote
for it.
This bill proves the pundits wrong. The Contract With America
is alive and well, and is working to better the lives of American
families.
I am especially pleased by two provisions in this legislation.
The regulatory flexibility act is a small but significant
step in the right direction for making commonsense changes
to our regulatory system.
This bill will bring much needed congressional accountability
to the regulatory process. No Congress before this one has
been willing to take responsibility for the way laws are implemented
after they are signed.
I believe it is both appropriate and necessary for Congress
to conduct oversight over agencies' promulgation of regulations,
and am very pleased that this, the first Republican Congress
in 40 years, is the one to make it happen.
We also are finally enacting the line-item veto.
When I was first elected to the House, I made the line-item
veto one of my top priorities.
This may not be a good week for pork, but it is a great week
for the American taxpayer.
Gone are the days, when Congresses inserted pork barrel projects
to buy votes for their Members.
With this line-item veto, we will make certain that those
days of wasting taxpayer dollars are gone forever.
I applaud my colleagues for their work on this legislation,
and I urge them to send this bill to the President.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman
from Maryland [Mr. Cardin].
Mr. CARDIN. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this
legislation, but it is interesting how we got here. We got
here today because the Republican leadership and the Democrat
administration worked together to bring this bill forward.
We have Democrats and Republicans working together, and when
we work together it is amazing what we can accomplish.
This bill is important. It does deal with the Social Security
earning limitation. For too long senior citizens have been
penalized for working with outrageously high tax rates. This
bill corrects that.
The line-item veto is an important bill. It helps to spotlight
individual appropriations. We pass these omnibus bills where
none of us really have an opportunity to study each and every
provision in that legislation. The line-item veto will give
us an opportunity to look at these items individually and
give the President a role as to whether they should become
law.
Small business regulatory relief, there are problems with
small business. The oversight function of Congress should
be to take a look at what regulations impact on small business,
and this bill does that.
Increasing the debt ceiling, we all know that we need to
do that. We have already spent the money. We have got to honor
our obligations.
But it is interesting, why have we delayed for so long in
bringing these bills forward? As I listened on the floor when
we were considering other debt extension bills, the Republican
leadership told us we could not consider it because we had
to deal with deficit reduction. This bill does not deal with
deficit reduction; it deals with extending the debt limit,
as it should.
Perhaps the only lesson that we can take out of this bill
on deficit reduction and balancing the budget is if we use
the process of Democrats and Republicans working together,
then we can accomplish a balanced budget in this Congress.
So I hope this legislation will spill over to other efforts
between Democrats and Republicans to bring sound legislation
to the floor, not in a vacuum by one party, but in cooperation
by both parties, between the Congress and the President. If
we do that, we will indeed serve our constituents well.
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Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman
from Kansas [Mrs. Meyers], the chairwoman of the Committee
on Small Business.
(Mrs. MEYERS of Kansas asked and was given permission to
revise and extend her remarks.)
Mrs. MEYERS of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank
the chairman very much for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of H.R. 3136. I support
the increase in the senior citizens earning threshold, I support
the line-item veto, and particularly I support title III of
this act, which is of enormous importance to this country's
21 million small businesses.
Subtitle A of title III provides that agencies will provide
plain English guides on new regulations for small business.
Subtitle B provides for a regulatory ombudsman to assist small
businesses in disputes with the Federal Government. These
two subtitles, along with subtitle D, the Regulatory Flexibility
Act, were among the very top priorities listed by the White
House Conference on Small Business.
I would like to focus for a moment on the Regulatory Flexibility
Act, which those interested in small business have been working
for for many years. The Regulatory Flexibility Act has been
on the books since 1980, and it provides that agencies must
review all new rules and regulations for their specific impact
on small business and then help mitigate that impact if it
is extreme. But there is no enforcement mechanism, and the
agencies have largely ignored it.
This bill would provide for judicial review of the process,
and thus put teeth in that Regulatory Flexibility Act. This
judicial review of regulatory flexibility has strong bipartisan
support. It has passed this House by a vote of 415 to 15,
and last week it passed the Senate by 100 to 0.
There are many good reasons to support this bill, but its
value and importance to small business is the best reason
to me and to the Committee on Small Business.
I urge my colleagues to support H.R. 3136.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes
to the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Mica] who has been a champion
for regulatory reform and also a leader in the line-item veto
battle.
Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for yielding
me time.
Mr. Speaker, small business is really the largest employer
in our country. Small business in fact is the cornerstone
of free enterprise. Today small business in the United States
is being choked to death on mindless regulations, edicts and
paperwork, and federally mandated compliance forms.
When they write the epitaph of American small business, let
me read for you what the tombstone is going to say: `Here
lies American small business, murdered by overregulation,
murdered by taxation and litigation.'
Today we cannot totally free the bondage of small business
in America. What we can do today, however, is allow some regulatory
flexibility, and that is what this legislation does.
Today, through this legislation, small business will have
a small but a fighting chance to challenge this crazy Federal
bureaucratic rulemaking process. Today we can let Congress
place a small check on the bureaucrats who have made a lifetime
career of pumping out mindless, costly, and ineffective regulations.
Today, if we are going to sink our Nation further into the
rathole of debt, we can, through these regulatory reform measures,
give small business, who employ our people, who pay our taxes,
a small but fighting chance to dig us out of that rathole
of debt.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to yield 2 minutes
to the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. McIntosh] who has been
a leader in this Congress on regulatory reform and an active
participant on our committee, and chairman of the Subcommittee
on Regulatory Reform.
Mr. McINTOSH. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for yielding
me time, and thank him for his leadership on this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the line-item veto
provision, the provision removing penalties from senior citizens,
and title III, the Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness
Act of 1996.
What we have before us today is a small step toward reforming
our regulatory process. It is time, Mr. Speaker, that we get
Government off of our backs, and back on our side in this
country.
Small businesses create 75 percent of the new jobs in this
country, and I am particularly pleased to support the provisions
of this bill that will allow small businesses to challenge
agency decisions in court when they ignore the needs of small
businesses and they write new regulations and create redtape.
I am also very pleased with subtitle E that will bring agency
regulations back to Congress for a vote. This part of the
bill originated as a companion bill to my legislation, H.R.
450, the Regulatory Transition Act of 1995. And I was pleased
to work with the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Chairman Clinger,
the gentleman from New York, Chairman Solomon, and the gentleman
from Illinois, Chairman Hyde, along with Senator Don Nickles,
to craft provisions that will be acceptable to both bodies
and provide for meaningful congressional review of agency
rulemaking actions.
Our Subcommittee on Regulatory Affairs has held field hearings
around the country. We have heard from many people who are
suffering because of Federal over-regulation. One person is
Bruce Gohman, a small businessman in Minnesota, who says that
he consciously limits his job creation to 50 employees. He
will not hire more people because of the fear of being subjected
to more redtape and more Government regulations.
I say we need this reform to allow Mr. Gohman to create more
good jobs and to pay higher wages to his employees so that
we can get this economy going again.
Mr. Speaker, I strongly support title III of this bill, and
say it is time we have regulations that are smarter, safer,
and provide more environmental protection, and less redtape.
Mr. Speaker, this title is one of the most important pieces
of legislation for small business growth and job creation
that we will take up this year. In fact, it is the number
one legislative priority for small business. Although this
is not a comprehensive regulatory reform bill, this is an
important first step in enacting needed reform for hard-working
Americans in their struggle against the regulatory bureaucracy
in Washington. Moreover, this title will hold the administration
accountable for the impact of rules on all Americans.
As I have said, I am especially pleased with the reforms
in subtitles D and E, which address issues that I have been
concerned about for a number of years. Subtitle D will strengthen
the Regulatory Flexibility Act by allowing affected small
businesses, local governments, and other small entities to
challenge certain agency action and inaction in court. Currently,
the Regulatory Flexibility Act requires Federal agencies issuing
new rules to consider the impact the rules would have on small
entities and prepare a regulatory flexibility analysis unless
it certifies that the rule would not have a significant economic
impact on a substantial number of small entities. In my experience
working with Vice President Quayle on the President's Council
on Competitiveness, I discovered that the Federal agencies
often ignored the mandate of the act and refused to prepare
a regulatory flexibility analysis. The limited judicial review
provided in subtitle D will serve as a needed check on agency
behavior and help enforce the mandate of the act.
Subtitle E will add a new chapter 8 to the Administrative
Procedure Act, which will allow Congress to review agency
rulemaking actions and determine whether Congress should pass
joint resolutions under expedited procedures to overrule the
rulemaking action. This subtitle originated almost one year
ago as companion legislation to H.R. 450, the Regulatory Transition
Act of 1995, which was reported out of my Subcommittee on
National Economic Growth, Natural Resources, and Regulatory
Affairs. Although I would have liked this subtitle to go further,
the bill we are going to pass today is a good start and can
easily be amended in the future to provide for an expedited
procedure to review and stop the most wrong-headed rulemaking
proceedings before they waste more agency and private resources.
As the principal House sponsor of the Congressional Review
subtitle, I am very proud that this bill will soon be sent
to the President again, and I hope signed by him this time.
The House and Senate passed an earlier version of this subtitle
as section 3006 of H.R. 2586, which was vetoed by the President
last November. Before it becomes law, this bill will have
passed the Senate at least four times and passed the House
at least twice. In discussions with the Senate and House co-sponsors
this past week, we made several changes to the version of
this subtitle that both bodies passed on November 9, 1995,
and the version that the Senate passed last week. I will be
happy to work with Chairman Hyde and Chairman Clinger on a
document that we can insert in
the Congressional Record at a later time to serve as the
equivalent of a floor managers' statement. But because this
bill will not likely have a conference report or managers'
statement prior to passage, I offer the following brief explanation
for some of the changes in the subtitle:
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DEFINITION OF A `MAJOR RULE'
The version of subtitle E that we will pass today takes the
definition of a `major rule' from President Reagan's Executive
Order 12291. Although President Clinton's Executive Order
12866 contains a definition of a significant rule that is
purportedly as broad, several of the administration's significant
rule determinations under Executive Order 12866 have been
questionable. The administration's narrow interpretation of
`significant rulemaking action' under Executive Order 12866
helped convince me that Congress should not adopt that definition.
We intend the term `major rule' to be broadly construed, particularly
the non-numerical factors contained in the new subsection
804(2) (B) and (C).
AGENCY INTERPRETIVE RULES, GENERAL STATEMENTS OF POLICY,
GUIDELINES, AND STATEMENTS OF AGENCY POLICY AND PROCEDURE
ARE COVERED BY THE BILL
All too often, agencies have attempted to circumvent the
notice and comment requirements of the Administrative Procedure
Act by trying to give legal effect to general policy statements,
guidelines, and agency policy and procedure manuals. Although
agency interpretive rules, general statements of policy, guideline
documents, and agency policy and procedure manuals may not
be subject to the notice and comment provisions of section
553(c) of title 5, United States Code, these types of documents
are covered under the congressional review provisions of the
new chapter 8 of title 5.
Under section 801(a), covered rules, with very few exceptions,
may not go into effect until the relevant agency submits a
copy of the rule and an accompanying report to both Houses
of Congress. Interpretive rules, general statements of policy,
and analogous agency policy guidelines are covered without
qualification because they meet the definition of a `rule'
borrowed from section 551 of title 5, and are not excluded
from the definition of a rule.
Pursuant to section 801(3)(C), a rule of agency organization,
procedure, or practice, is only excluded if it `does not substantially
affect the rights or obligations of nonagency parties.' The
focus of the test is not on the type of rule but on its effect
on the rights or obligations of nonagency parties. A statement
of agency procedure or practice with a truly minor, incidental
effect on nonagency parties is excluded from the definition
of a rule. Any other effect, whether direct or indirect, on
the rights or obligations of nonagency parties is a substantial
effect within the meaning of the exception. Thus, this exception
should be read narrowly and resolved in favor of nonagency
parties who can demonstrate that the rule will have a nontrivial
effect on their rights or obligations.
THE 60-DAY DELAY ON THE EFFECTIVENESS OF MAJOR RULES AND
THE EMERGENCY AND GOOD CAUSE EXCEPTIONS
Two of the three previous Senate versions of this subtitle
would have delayed the effective date of a major rule until
at least 45 days after the relevant agency submitted the major
rule and an accompanying report to Congress. One of the Senate
versions and both House versions opted for at least a 60-day
delay on the effectiveness of a major rule. The 60-day period
was selected to provide a more meaningful time within which
Congress could act to pass a joint resolution before a major
rule went into effect. Even though the expedited congressional
procedures extend beyond this period--and some of the special
House and Senate rules would never expire--it would be preferable
for the Congress to act before outside parties are forced
to comply with the rule.
The subtitle provides an emergency exception in section 801(c)
and a limited good cause exception in section 808(2) from
the 60-day delay on the effectiveness of a major rule. Sections
801(c) and 808(2) should be narrowly construed, for any other
reading of these exceptions would defeat the purpose of the
delay period. The emergency exception in section 801(c) is
only available pursuant to Executive order and after congressional
notification that a specified situation exists. The good cause
exception in section 808(2) is borrowed from the chapter 5
of the Administrative Procedure Act and applies only to rules
which are exempt from notice and comment under section 553.
Even in such cases, the agency should provide for the 60-day
delay in the effective date unless such delay is clearly contrary
to the public interest. This is because a determination under
section 801(c) and 808(2) shall have no effect on the procedures
under 802 to enact joint resolutions of disapproval respecting
such rule, and it is contrary to the policy of this legislation
that major rules take effect before Congress has had a meaningful
opportunity to act on such joint resolutions.
ALL EXECUTIVE AGENCIES AND SO-CALLED INDEPENDENT AGENCIES
ARE COVERED BY THE BILL
Congress intends this legislation to be comprehensive. It
covers any agency or other entity that fits the `Federal agency'
definition borrowed from 5 U.S.C. 551(1). That definition
includes `each authority of the government' that is not expressly
excluded by section 551(1)(A)-(H). The objective is to cover
each and every entity in the executive branch, whether it
is a department, independent agency, independent establishment,
or Government corporation, whether or not it conducts its
rulemaking under section 553(c), and whether or not it is
even covered by other provisions of title 5, U.S. Code. This
definition of `Federal agency' is also intended to cover entities
and establishments within the executive branch, such as the
U.S. Postal Service, that are sometimes excluded from the
definition of an agency in other parts of the U.S. Code. This
is because Congress is enacting the congressional review legislation,
in large part, as an exercise of its oversight and legislative
responsibility over the executive branch. Regardless of the
justification for excluding or granting independence for certain
entities from the coverage of certain laws, that justification
does not apply in this legislation, where Congress has an
interest in exercising its constitutional oversight and legislative
responsibility over all executive branch agencies and entities
within its jurisdiction.
Examples too numerous to mention abound in which Federal
entities and agencies issue regulations and rules that impact
businesses, small and large, as well as major segments of
the American public, yet are not subject to the traditional
5 U.S.C. 553(c) rulemaking process. It is essential that this
regulatory reform measure include every agency, authority,
or entity that establishes policies affecting all or any segment
of the general public. Where it is necessary, a few special
adjustments have been made, such as the exclusion for the
monetary policy activities of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System, rules of particular applicability,
and rules of agency management and personnel. Where it is
not necessary, no exemption is provided and the rule is that
the entity's regulations are covered by this act. This is
made clear by the provisions of the new section 806 which
states that the act applies notwithstanding any other provision
of law.
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Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman
from California [Mr. Royce].
Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this legislation
which is urgently needed to avoid financial chaos. This is
a compromise bill. In exchange for extending the debt limit,
it provides a much needed procedure for reducing unnecessary
pork barrel spending. That procedure is the line-item veto.
As cochairman of the congressional pork busters coalition,
I strongly support the line-item veto as an essential tool
to eliminate pork from appropriations bills. We have been
battling pork for 6 years on the floor of this House, but
not always successfully.
This legislation provides much needed back up power to the
Executive, allowing him to surgically slice out those items
which do not deserve funding. Governors in 43 States, including
California, already have this power and it has worked well.
In our State of California, it has allowed our Governors to
balance the budget. The House voted for a line-item veto over
a year ago, and it has been bottled up in the Senate ever
since. This is a golden opportunity to finally achieve our
goal.
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Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman
from Mississippi [Mr. Taylor].
Mr. TAYLOR of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank one
of the heroes of D-day for the opportunity, the gentleman
from Florida [Mr. Gibbons].
When the new majority came to power 1 year ago, they promised
the American people that Congress would change its ways, that
we would live by all the laws of the land. Obviously one of
the laws that we are not going to live by is the law of regulating
false advertising. The very name of this bill is false advertising.
It has nothing to do with the Contract With America. It has
everything to do with raising the debt limit by $600 billion.
The American people have consistently said that the biggest
threat to this Nation is our horrible debt. It is a vulnerability
greater than any other thing because it is eating up so much
of our taxes. Just the interest on the national debt eats
up more of our taxes than Medicare, than Medicaid, twice as
much as Medicaid, the national defense, 10 times more than
food stamps, and 12 times more than welfare.
In the 2 minutes that I have spoken to my colleagues, this
Nation has spent $1 million on interest on the national debt,
just in the past 2 minutes.
So what is their solution? We will borrow more money. We
will pay more interest. That is crazy.
Mr. Speaker, what do they do? Do they come to the floor and
be honest with the American people and say we want to borrow
some more money? No, they hide it. They hide it behind three
bills that have already passed this body on their own merit,
three bills that were just waiting for the U.S. Senate to
agree to so they can become law.
There is only one purpose for this bill. It is to borrow
more money and to waste more money on interest on the national
debt. Instead of the balanced budget that the American people
were promised, this is just more borrow and spend. But it
is not the first time since I have come to Congress that this
has happened. Around November 7, 1989, I got a call from then-President
Bush's White House. I was very new to this body. It said,
can you do us a favor? Can you help us just one time temporarily
raise the national debt? Just a temporary thing.
Mr. Speaker, I had only been here a couple of weeks, and,
my goodness, the President of the United States called. I
was flabbergasted and honored, and, of course, Mr. President,
you made perfect sense. We
have got to do that. So the debt was raised from 2.87 trillion
to 3.1 trillion. That was not the end of it. In October 26,
1990, this House came back, and H.R. 5838 permanently raised
the debt ceiling from 3.1 to 4.1 trillion, just a couple years
later. And then again on August 5, 1993, the House raised
the debt ceiling from 4.1 to 4.9.
It is like saying, I am going to pay off my Visa card but
first I am going to raise my debt limit on my visa card from
5,000 to 10,000. You do not ever get there.
Today they are being asked to raise it from 4.9 to 5.5 trillion.
Voting to raise the debt limit is a lot like an alcoholic
saying, I am just going to have one more drink. A very good
friend of mine from Pascagoula, MS, just came out of alcoholic
rehab. He said, I would wake up every morning and I could
always find an excuse for just one more drink. It is Thanksgiving.
It is the week before Christmas. It is Mardi Gras. It is spring
break. There is always one more excuse, one more drink. But
until he work up and said, I am not going to have any more
excuses, no more drinks, did he cure his problem.
Mr. Speaker, America has to run out of excuses. We have got
to quit borrowing. We cannot be for a balanced budget and
then turn around and borrow $600 billion more. Let us draw
the line today. Let us quit fooling the American people. Let
us do what is right for this country.
I thank the chairman and the great hero of D-Day. This gentleman,
in case Members do not know, paratrooped into Normandy the
night before the D-Day invasion. He is going to end his congressional
career this year. He is a great American, and we are going
to miss him.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman
from California [Mr. Dreier].
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend, the gentleman
from Texas [Mr. Archer] for yielding time to me. I want to
congratulate the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger]
and, of course, congratulate the gentleman from Florida [Mr.
Gibbons]. We are going to miss him greatly.
Mr. Speaker, it saddens me that we have gotten to the point
where we have to rely on the line-item veto to turn the corner
on the profligate spending that we have seen go on for decades.
We have seen it successful in 38 States. I would simply like
the Record to show that in our State of California, Governor
Wilson has used the line-item veto 354 times, saving our State's
taxpayers nearly $800 million.
I hope very much that we can proceed with passage of this
very important measure.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman
from Ohio [Mr. Trafficant].
(Mr. TRAFICANT asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, let us see if this sounds right.
Congress is frustrated with political pork. Congress has tried
but Congress is fed up with pork-barrel spending.
Congress honestly and desperately wants to stop all of this
political pork. So Congress today, in both desperation and
frustration, has decided that the only way to stop political
pork is by giving the top politician in America, the President,
the power to control political pork. Beam me up here. Let
me remind everybody herein assembled, this is not Rotary.
This is the Super Bowl of politics. And as we speak, White
House staffers are not only watching and listening to what
we say but how we say it, and they will be individually scoring
your voting records to determine who may need some discipline.
In America the people are supposed to govern. My problem
with the line item veto is very simple. It is an awesome transfer
of the people's power to one person who needs to get elected
and then needs 34 Senators in his hip pocket to run America.
I guarantee not one of those 34 Senators will ever worry about
a line item veto.
Mr. Speaker, let me say this today in the little bit of time
I have, watch what we say from here on out, bite our tongues,
mind our votes, mind our votes. And consider our votes politically,
folks, because the White House is watching, the White House
is keeping score.
I think there is a better way to do this without transferring
the power from the people to the White House. We are making
the White House too powerful in the United States of America.
I think we are endangering the freedom of our Nation and the
power of our people.
With that, I appreciate the gentleman for giving me the time.
I want to echo the remarks of the gentleman from Mississippi
[Mr. Taylor].
I have been quite aggressive in some of my opposition at
times to the Committee on Ways and Means, but never to the
gentleman personally. I think the gentleman is an absolute
great American. We are going to miss the gentleman from Florida
[Mr. Gibbons]. I thank him for putting up with me. A lot of
Members love him; I certainly do.
Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. TRAFICANT. I yield to the gentleman from North Carolina.
Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, as one who did not support the line
item veto because I do not think we can always count on the
President of the United States, regardless of who he is, not
to have some pettiness in his surroundings. But what I do
not understand is there was a big push to do the line item
veto early on over here, and I understand that this transaction
will not go into place until 1997. Why would not the line
item veto go and this President have the benefits of it for
the next 7 months?
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Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, I would like to respond by saying
evidently the next President-elect will have the line item
veto authority. It is amazing to me. I think it is unconstitutional,
to start with, but I can remember a vote on a Btu tax, and
the President wanted a Btu tax. I can remember that I happened
to be the only Democrat in the Congress to speak out against
that tax. With the line item veto it is not a very comfortable
position. Maybe someone from that side might say the reason
why.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. TRAFICANT. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania.
We are going to miss him as well.
Mr. CLINGER. Just to briefly say, Mr. Speaker, the President
has agreed to the date. Obviously he is confident that he
is in fact going to be reelected. I do not share that confidence,
but he believes that he will be. Therefore, he is going to
have that ability on January 1 in his view. The second thing
is he has the key to provide the line-item veto to his use
now upon signing a balanced budget agreement.
Mr. TRAFICANT. Reclaiming my time, I do not care if it is
a Democrat or Republican, we are all Americans. We are expanding
the power of the Presidency. That is not good for our country,
Mr. Speaker.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the deputy
whip, the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Hastert], a respected
Member of the House.
Mr. HASTERT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
time to me.
This is the third time the House of Representatives has taken
up legislation to raise the earnings limit for working seniors
in the 104th Congress. I want to congratulate the gentleman
from Texas [Mr. Archer], who I think for 13 Congresses has
worked to make this thing possible. I also want to congratulate
the gentleman from Kentucky [Mr. Bunning], who is the chairman
of the Social Security Subcommittee, along with Members of
the 100th class who have been working on this project for
another 8 years. They have made this thing happen.
Mr. Speaker, every time this legislation has come to the
floor, it has passed with nearly a huge bipartisan margin.
It is clear the House understands that working seniors, people
who have to earn money by the sweat of their brow, usually
people who have earned money by the sweat of their brow their
whole life, who have not been able to accumulate huge savings
or investments or those revenues or huge pensions, that today
they have to go out and work to supplement their pension,
to supplement their Social Security so that they can have
a decent life, so that they can help put
their grandchildren through college, so that they can maybe
go on a vacation or somebody pay their property taxes or even
buy a new car. These people are affected by this bill.
I am proud to be able to stand here today and say that those
seniors will be able to make more money this year without
paying a tax on work. Those seniors will be able to eventually
realize and take the earnings test up to $30,000 so that they
can share the benefits of work that all Americans can have
without paying a penalty or a tax on it.
Mr. Speaker, I sincerely wish we were able to raise the limits
faster, as in earlier versions of this bill, but I am glad
we have been able to come up with a plan that the President
will sign. The seniors need and deserve relief. They have
waited patiently for too long. In fact, I think those people
who have to work by the sweat of their brow, people who work
at McDonald's and flower shops and drive school buses need
a break today, and we are going to give it to them.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman
from North Carolina [Mr. Hefner].
Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, to my friend, the gentleman from
Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger], who is leaving this august body
and has been a friend for a lot of years, everything that
is in this bill that we are debating here today, as soon as
the President signs it, will go into effect with the exception
of the line-item veto; is that right?
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. HEFNER. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated, this would also
go into effect if the President would agree to the balanced-budget
agreement.
Mr. HEFNER. The balanced budget is not what we are voting
on.
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The gentleman is saying to the President, If you will do
what we want to do, we'll give you the line-item veto this
year, but everything else extending the debt limit and everything
else will go into effect as soon as he signs it, with the
exception of the line-item veto which we passed well over
a year ago, in the first year of this new administration.
Why? I do not understand why the gentleman would object to
giving the President the line-item veto when he has got all
these bills that are coming up for all the appropriations
for everything that we authorized this year. Why would the
gentleman want to wait until 1997, because we can save a lot
of money? Would it have been possible until you make it effective
as soon as the bill is signed?
Mr. Speaker, just as among friends here, we are just friends
here, would it not have been possible to put into this legislation
that as soon as the President signs it, he will have the line-item
veto? It is just that simple.
Yes or no; could the gentleman have done it that way?
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. HEFNER. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania.
Mr. CLINGER. That could be done but would kill the conference
agreement and prevent enactment of the bill. The President
has in fact agreed that the date should be January----
Mr. HEFNER. That is not exactly true, Mr. Clinger.
Mr. CLINGER. He did agree to that date; did he not?
Mr. HEFNER. That was the best he could get, but I think he
would agree, if it were made possible, that the line-item
veto would go into effect as soon as he--I do not think he
would have any problem with that.
Mr. CLINGER. I would understand that, but if the gentleman
would yield----
Mr. HEFNER. But it could be done.
Mr. CLINGER. There is a recognition that this is an effort
to try to----
Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, taking back my time, the gentleman
is setting the legislative agenda here. He could have made
it in order that everything would go into effect, the line-item
veto, everything, would have gone into effect. It could have
been done; am I right or not? Yes or no?
Mr. CLINGER. No. Not and pass the bill.
Mr. HEFNER. I reclaim my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
time of the gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. Hefner] has
expired.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman
from Pennsylvania [Mr. Gekas].
Mr. GEKAS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
this time to me.
The American farmer and the owner of a small business will
be, at the end of this day, applauding the action of the Congress
of the United States. For too long they have suffered the
indignity of the Federal regulator, the agency head, who burdens
the farmer and burdens the small business man with countless
items of regulation that stifle business, it stifles the ability
of the farmer to expand his operation and, thus, have created
a situation in our country where entrepreneurs are afraid
to hire new people, are afraid to embark on new enterprises.
What we do here today in reforming regulatory flexibility
is for the first time give a disaffected regulatee, if there
be such a word, the right to appeal a burdensome regulation
that has been foisted upon them by administrative agencies.
That is a tremendous advance. Instead of having to sit back
and take whatever the agency says as a mandate, now for the
first time we will have the farmer and the small business
man say to himself and to the community, `I'll be able to
do something about this adverse regulation.'
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Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 1/2 minutes to the gentleman
from Delaware [Mr. Castle].
Mr. CASTLE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the distinguished gentleman
for yielding this time to me, and let me just say I support
this legislation in every aspect of it. I think many, many
good things are happening here.
I only have a minute and a half. I want to talk about the
line-item veto. I think we need to look at the record first
of all. Congress over the years, Republicans and Democrats,
have spent a tremendous amount of money, more than, perhaps,
we should have. I think this country really wants mechanisms
in place which are going to help us reduce that burden of
spending, and I believe strongly the line-item veto will do
it.
I have listened to this whole argument today because I am
interested in it. As a Governor of a State for 8 years, I
had the line-item veto. We are one of the 43 States which
has it. I can tell my colleagues it was beneficial in my State
from both points of view. It caused us to get into a room
together and to discuss our budgets, and to make absolutely
sure we were in concert with each other and we were doing
what was in the best interests of the State. It was beneficial,
without a doubt, to the budget process of the State of Delaware
and I am convinced it will be beneficial to the budget process
of the United States of America.
We, in my judgment, are not yielding power to the President
absolutely. We are allowing the President to become involved
in the budget process. But we also retain the right to override
vetoes in the circumstances in which they arise, and, quite
frankly, if we have a President who for political reasons,
ideological reasons, political reasons, whatever it may be,
decides to make an issue of all of this, we have the ability
to just as easily point out that it is politics and that it
is wrong.
What will really happen in this process is that we will be
able to sit down together to negotiate things that are absolutely
in the pork barrel category. They can be eliminated.
So for the reasons of that and the rest of this very good
bill I hope we will all support it here in a few minutes.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 1/2 minutes to the gentleman
from New York [Mr. Quinn].
Mr. QUINN. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
this time to me.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of the entire bill which
includes the most important line-item veto. This 104th Congress
has been hailed as a reform-minded Congress. We have made
historic attempts to cut wasteful Government spending, scale
back a bloated bureaucracy and, most importantly, balance
our Federal budget.
Although we have made great strides in these areas, our budgets
still suffer from a deficit increasing plague which is known
as pork barrel spending. In order to complete this goal of
returning fiscal responsibility to the Federal Government,
we must enact this measure.
With the line-item veto the President can literally draw
a line through any item in the Federal budget without having
to veto the entire budget. No longer will taxpayer dollars
be spent on wasteful projects. Instead, the stroke of a pen
from the President will eliminate millions of dollars of pork
from each year's budget.
Furthermore, these savings will go into a lockbox, insuring
that they be used for deficit reduction. In fact, the General
Accounting Office, during the course of our discussion on
this matter these last 2 years, has reported that they would
have saved or been able to save over $70 billion had the line-item
veto been in effect.
Mr. Speaker, we are here again with this opportunity to pass
a historic measure. On a day when we are asking to support
an increase in the debt limit to a record $5.5 billion, I
think it is imperative and it is appropriate that we give
the President this authority.
Mr. Speaker, I also want to take a moment at this time to
commend our colleague, the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr.
Clinger], who is retiring after this session. We said yesterday
at the Committee on Rules, I will say it again, his work on
the line-item veto bill, as well as many other numerous reform
problems and perspectives, has been truly remarkable. Without
his effort it would still be stuck in conference. We appreciate
his work and ask everybody to vote for the line-item veto.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman
from Michigan [Mr. Smith].
Mr. SMITH of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman
from Texas for yielding time to a person that wants to talk
against the bill.
Mr. Speaker, what this bill does is increases the debt of
the United States by $600 billion. At 5-percent interest,
that is another $30 billion a year that taxpayers will have
to pay.
I think it is unconscionable to continue to increase the
debt without some guidelines, without some actual legislative
change, at the very least some direction, to cut the spending
of this overbloated Government. Borrowing has obscured the
true siege of Government. Ultimately we must reach a balanced
budget. This bill does not do that, and that is why I am voting
against it.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman
from California [Mr. Becerra].
Mr. BECERRA. I thank the gentleman for yielding me the time.
Mr. Speaker, let me rise in opposition to H.R. 3136 and mention
that, along with some of the Members who have spoken earlier,
I, too, believe that this bill will ultimately be found constitutional
if it is signed into law. I also note with curiosity that
we made the line-item veto effective after the term of the
current President, Bill Clinton, has expired, and I think
that is somewhat questionable as to why this Congress, under
the new majority, has decided not to allow this particular
President the opportunity to exercise a line-item veto if
they are so adamantly for it.
But let me mention something that I find extremely disturbing
in this particular bill, which I cannot understand why it
is even in here, and that is the whole issue of regulatory
reform. I do not think there is any Member of Congress who
does not wish to see regulatory flexibility and decreasing
the burden on small business so long as we provide protections
to the environment, to workers, and to people, our consumers.
But, disturbingly, this bill commits an end run on the whole
issue of regulatory reform because what it does is it provides,
in this particular piece of legislation, through an amendment
which I must say just came to us last night, which amends
this bill which came to us just 2 days ago, the whole structure
used to regulate agencies and regulate businesses out there
in this country. How someone is supposed to be able to know
what something that they got 2 days ago completely means and
then now have to analyze something that they got last night,
what that means is beyond me. But that is what we are being
asked to swallow here through this end run.
I am not sure what is wrong with this particular bill, but
why was it that the majority was unwilling to let sunshine
on these provisions so we could decide if, in fact, this is
the true regulatory reform we need?
Let me mention a couple of other things. This legislation
creates, in the regulatory reform provisions, so-called regulatory
fairness boards and advocacy panels. These are panels and
boards that may be made up completely of a few favored small
businesses that are trying to get themselves out of regulation,
or can even include people who are exclusively major campaign
contributors to particular Members of Congress or to particular
parties. That I find very disturbing and very offensive.
What else does this legislation do? It allows for private
ex parte communications. In other words, all the interested
parties are normally under the customary practice allowed
to sit in, in an open and fair process on the record, on what
should be done with regard to regulatory reform.
This legislation says no, we do not need to do that any more.
Let us go ahead and let a few people who happen to sit on
these boards or advocacy panels have the opportunity to privately,
without the other interested parties, sit down with some of
these agencies that are actually going to create these particular
regulations or remove certain regulations. That is unfair
to those businesses that are trying to do this in a fair and
evenhanded manner.
Finally, the environment is at stake. I would urge all the
Members to, if they really have a chance, take a look at this.
We are going to take out the penalties for environmental violations
of law.
As I was saying, take a look at the provisions that deal
with environmental regulations. What we see here are waivers
of penalties that would otherwise apply to those businesses
that we find in violation of our clean water and safe drinking
water standards. Any penalty for having violated those particular
laws or regulations could be waived.
Not only that, but because we have not had enough time to
examine it, it is going to be fairly clear from some of the
cryptic language that is used that they are going to create
a nest egg for attorneys, because they will be able to go
in there and take this to court because so much of this is
so difficult to understand. What they are doing though is
putting the consumer at risk, they are putting the environment
at risk, and I would urge Members to take a close look for
all the reasons I stated on why we should oppose H.R. 3136.
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Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume simply to very briefly respond to the gentleman who
has just spoken.
Mr. Speaker, this legislation on small business regulatory
reform should not come as a big surprise to him because it
was debated thoroughly on the floor of this House last year.
This was one of the elements of the Contract With America.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 1/2 minutes to the gentleman
from Oklahoma [Mr. Coburn].
Mr. COBURN. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
me the time.
Mr. Speaker, I have voted on the three main components of
this bill already, regulatory reform, Social Security earnings
limit increase, and a line-item veto. I think it is very important
that the American public knows what this bill is. This is
adding things to increase the debt for our children. What
is wrong with the scenario to say that we are in debt, we
have no figured-out way, no agreed-to plan, to solve that
debt, and we are going back to the bank to borrow more money?
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Mr. Speaker, the Members of this Congress need to make sure
they know what they are doing when they vote to extend the
debt and jeopardize the future of our children by not doing
the proper thing in terms of living within our means today.
Consider what it will be like when we are 70 or 80 years
of age. They will not, our children or grandchildren, be able
to buy a home, will not be able to own a car. Their living
standard will be halved, because we did the wrong thing today.
This is not about the Social Security earnings limit, this
is not about the line-item veto, this is not about reg reform,
this is about not living up to the very hard responsibility
that this Congress has been entrusted with, and that is not
to live beyond our means.
I would urge each Member of Congress to consider what the
real issue is here today, and vote not to extend his debt
limit until we have an agreement that gives us a plan on how
we manage the finances of this country.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume
to the gentlewoman from New Jersey [Mrs. Roukema].
(Mrs. ROUKEMA asked and was given permission to revise and
extend her remarks and include extraneous material.)
Mrs. ROUKEMA. Mr. Speaker, I rise in reluctant opposition
to this legislation
Mr. Speaker, I want my colleagues to know that I have absolutely
no quarrel with the heart of this bill--the mechanism by which
we enact a long-term increase in the debt limit. My colleagues
know that I have long advocated decisive action on the debt
limit and feel this step is long overdue. In addition, I have
supported the increase in the Social Security earnings limit
and believe the so-called reg flex provisions of this bill
are an improvement on current law.
My opposition is prompted exclusively by the inclusion of
the line-item veto in this must-pass legislation.
Mr. Speaker and my colleagues, enactment of the line-item
veto is a serious error and a fundamental violation of the
basic constitutional principal of the separation of powers.
Every school child in America should have learned that. The
separation of powers is a foundation of our democracy.
Mr. Speaker, Mr. David Samuels has it right in an Op-Ed piece
in today's New York Times--`Line Item Lunacy.' I include this
article for the Record.
David Samuels writes:
The line-item veto would hand over unchecked power to a minority
President with minority support in Congress, while opponents
would have to muster two-thirds support to override the President's
veto.
From the New York Times, Mar. 28, 1996
[FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, MAR. 28, 1996]
Line-Item Lunacy
(BY DAVID SAMUELS)
It's a scene from a paranoid thriller by Oliver Stone: A mercurial
billionaire, elected President with 35 percent of the vote,
holds America hostage to his minority agenda by vetoing item
after item in the Federal budget, in open breach of the separation
of powers doctrine enshrined in the Constitution. Impossible?
Not anymore.
With the announcement by Republican leaders that they plan
to pass the line-item veto this spring, the specter of a Napoleonic
Presidency has moved from the far reaches of poli-sci fiction,
where it belongs, to the brink of political possibility.
At the moment, of course, a Presidential dictatorship is
far from the minds of the G.O.P. leadership and White House
Democrats, who hope that the line-item veto would encourage
the President to eliminate pork-barrel giveaways and corporate
tax breaks. But to see the measure as a simple procedural
reform is to ignore the forces that have reconfigured the
political landscape since it was first proposed.
Back in the 1980's, President Ronald Reagan ritually invoked
the line-item veto while shifting blame onto a Democratic
Congress for ballooning deficits. Part Republican chestnut,
part good-government gimmick, the line-item veto became part
of the Contract With America in 1994, and this month rose
to the top of the political agenda.
What the calculations of Democrats and Republicans leave
out, however, is that the unsettled politics of the 1990's
bear little relation to the political order of the Reagan
years.
In poll after poll, a majority of voters express a raging
disaffection with both major parties. With Ross Perot poised
to run in November, we could again elect our President with
a minority of the popular vote (in 1992, Mr. Clinton won with
43 percent). The line-item veto would hand over unchecked
power to a minority President with minority support in Congress,
while opponents would have to muster two-thirds support to
override the President's veto.
By opening every line in the Federal budget to partisan attack,
the likely result would be a chaotic legislature more susceptible
than ever to obstructionists who could demand a Presidential
veto of Federal arts funding or sex education programs or
aid to Israel as the price of their political support.
And conservatives eager to cut Government waste would do
well to reflect on what a liberal minority might do to their
legislative hopes during a second Clinton term in office.
Nor would the line-item veto likely result in more responsible
executive behavior. The zigs and zags of Bill Clinton's first
term in office give us a clear picture of the post-partisan
Presidency, in which the executive freelances across the airwaves
in pursuit of poll numbers regardless of the political coherence
of his message or the decaying ties of party. With the adoption
of the line-item veto, the temptation for Presidents to strike
out on their own would surely grow.
The specter of a President on horseback armed with coercive
powers might seem far away to those who dismissed Ross Perot
as a freak candidate in the last election. Yet no law states
that power-hungry billionaires must be possessed of Mr. Perot's
peculiar blend of personal qualities and doomed to fail. Armed
with the line-item veto, a future Ross Perrot--or Steve Forbes--would
be equipped with the means to reward and punish members of
the House and Senate by vetoing individual budget items. This
would enable an independent President to build a coalition
in Congress through a program of threats and horse-trading
that would make our present sorely flawed system seem like
a model of Ciceronian rectitude.
President Clinton has promised to sign the line-item veto
when it reaches his desk. Between now and then, the historic
breach of our constitutional separation of powers that the
measure proposes should be subject to a vigorous public debate.
At the very least, we might reflect on how we intend to govern
ourselves at a time when the certainties of two-party politics
are dissolving before our eyes.
He's absolutely right! A pure line-item veto--and the version
included in this bill is fairly pure--would give the President
of the United States new dramatic, unilateral powers. It would
mean that any President, operating in league with just 34
Senators, could strip any spending proposal or tax cut, no
matter their merit, from any bill. The consolidation of power
in the executive branch is undeniable.
As Mr. Samuels writes, `By opening every line in the Federal
budget to partisan attack, the likely result would be a chaotic
legislature more susceptible than ever to obstructionists
. . .'
This line-item veto could easily take legislative horse-trading
to a new level. While many President's have held out the prospect
of pork in order to enlist votes for legislation they wanted--that
is, the vote trading that occurred during the NAFTA debate--the
line-item veto will allow a President to threaten specific
programs and projects proposed by Members in order to compel
their cooperation on other votes.
This is a dramatic shift in the balance of power is an open
invitation to any President to engage in legislative blackmail.
For example, what if President Clinton decided to remove only
Republican initiatives from a measure? If 34 Democratic Senators
uphold his action, the President wins.
We all recognize the genius of the framers of our U.S. Constitution.
They did not want a king or a dictator or an oligarchy--a
small group ruling the Nation. So they wrote the Constitution
based on a delicate system of checks and balances and the
separation of powers doctrine.
I have supported a so-called expedited rescissions process
which will maintain the delicate balance of powers by allowing
the President to reject spending and tax changes with a majority
vote of Congress.
I am convinced, however, that the Supreme Court of the United
States will save this Congress from itself. This proposed
violates the foundation of our Constitution and will be overturned
at its first judicial challenge.
Mr. Speaker, I regret that inclusion of this line-item veto
will force me to vote `no' on this vital legislation.
Many of my colleagues know that I have been a strong voice
urging quick passage of a long-term debt limit extension.
I spoke out on this issue as early as November 15 in a letter
to Speaker gingrich and again in letters in late January,
in late February, and early March.
And today--finally, finally--we are doing the right thing.
For too long, many in this Congress threatened to use this
long-term debt limit extension bill as leverage in the effort
to enact entitlement reform or other legislation.
That was playing with fire.
When it comes to our financial obligations, the stakes are
simply too high. In its 219-year history, the United States
has never defaulted on its financial obligations. The full
faith and credit of the United States must not be jeopardized.
Default could set off a chain reaction of economic events,
at home and abroad, that could be both uncontrollable and
catastrophic. Even talking about a default carries costs that
are being borne by the taxpayers and private businesses.
As Members dedicated to fiscal responsibility and protecting
the economic future of our country, I am pleased that we are
finally taking responsible action to increase the debt ceiling
and, in doing so, avoid default.
Mr. Speaker, I also support enactment of a phased increase
in the Social Security earnings limit and the provisions of
the small business regulatory flexibility act.
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Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my
time.
Mr. Speaker, 75 percent of the American people support the
line-item veto, and have supported the line-item veto for
a long time. I am sorry the gentleman from North Carolina
did not stay on the floor. He asked me the question, could
we not have made this effective now? I would return the question
and say why did not the majority, the then-majority party,
provide a line-item veto for the 40 years in which they controlled
this body?
It has been suggested that there are a number of reasons
why we should not enact this legislation. It has been suggested
that it is unconstitutional. It is not really our job to determine
what is constitutional or what is not unconstitutional, but
the fact is that we do provide severability in this measure.
If a provision, any provision of the matter is considered
to be unconstitutional, it can be stricken and the rest of
the matter can stand.
It has also been suggested, Mr. Speaker, that we have engaged
in a reckless transfer of power. I would suggest, on the contrary,
this provides the President with a refined tool to attack
the deficit problem that looms over us. It merely gives him
an effort to be more selective in the way that he goes about
deficit reduction.
Congress retains the power to override any Presidential veto.
We have not given that power away. I am sure that we will
exercise that power. We also limit his ability to do this
to whole dollar amounts. He cannot single out projects unless
they are congressional earmarks. He has to take out the entire
amount if he is going to do anything, so that was, I think,
an important addition that we got in conference.
Mr. Speaker, there are the dire results that have been indicated
by some of the Members who have spoken against this measure,
if, in fact, that turns out to be true, there is a sunset
provision in this legislation that provides that there will
be an opportunity to review this matter at a time within 8
years. Mr. Speaker, I think this is a reasonable, a reasoned,
and a sensible measure that should be enacted.
I want to discuss just one other brief area that needs clarification
in this legislation. We created small business and agriculture
enforcement ombudsmen who would be appointed by the Administrator
in the SBA. Concerns have arisen in the inspector general
community that those ombudsmen would have new enforcement
powers that would conflict with those currently held by the
inspectors general. I want to make it very clear that nothing
in this act is intended to supercede or conflict with the
Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended, or to otherwise
restrict or interfere with the activities of any office of
the inspector general but, rather, be used to help our small
business and work with the inspectors general.
Mr. Speaker, I urge a strong bipartisan support for the increase
in the debt limit and the line-item veto and regulatory reform.
Mr. Speaker, I include for the Record a letter from the Joint
Committee on Taxation containing examples of how the tax provisions
of this measure would work.
The material referred to is as follows:
CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES,
Joint Committee on Taxation,
Washington, DC, March 26, 1996.
Hon. Peter Blute,
House of Representatives, Longworth House Office Building,
Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Blute: This is in response to your letter of March
24, 1996, in which you requested the staff of the Joint Committee
on Taxation to prepare some examples of how the provisions
of S. 4, the `Line Item Veto Act,' would apply to tax legislation.
The Line Item Veto Act provides that each `limited tax benefit'
is subject to the President's line-item veto authority. In
general, the Line Item Veto Act defines a `limited tax benefit'
as any provision prescribing tax consequences under the Internal
Revenue Code that is either (1) a revenue-losing provision
that provides a Federal tax deduction, credit, exclusion,
or preference to 100 or fewer beneficiaries in any fiscal
year for which the provision is in effect (subject to certain
exceptions described below); or (2) a Federal tax provision
that provides temporary or permanent transitional relief to
10 or fewer beneficiaries in any fiscal year, except to the
extent that the provision provides for the retention of prior
law for all binding contracts (or other legally-enforceable
obligations) in existence on a date contemporaneous with Congressional
action specifying such a date. The Joint Committee on Taxation
is responsible for identifying limited tax benefits.
A provision is defined as `revenue-losing' if it results
in a reduction in Federal tax revenues either for the first
year in which the provision is effective or for the 5-year
period beginning with the fiscal year in which the provision
is effective. A revenue-losing provision that affects 100
or fewer beneficiaries in a fiscal year is not a limited tax
benefit if any of certain enumerated exceptions is satisfied.
First, if a provision has the effect of providing all persons
in the same industry or engaged in the same activity with
the same treatment, the item is not a limited tax benefit
even if there are 100 or fewer persons in the affected industry.
For this purpose, the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation
believes that a broad definition of `activity' is intended
to be applied, e.g. for purposes of determining whether a
proposal related to drug testing is a limited tax benefit,
all persons engaged in drug testing would be considered to
be engaged in the same activity or the same industry rather
than all persons engaged in clinical testing of drugs for
certain diseases. A second exception is for provisions that
have the effect of providing the same treatment to all persons
owning the same type of property or issuing the same type
of investment instrument. Finally, a provision is not a limited
tax benefit if the only reason the provision affects different
persons differently is because of: (1) the size or form of
the business or association involved; (2) general demographic
conditions affecting individuals, such as their income level,
marital status, number of dependents, or tax return filing
status; (3) the amount involved; or (4) a generally available
election provided under the Internal Revenue Code.
We have made a preliminary review of the Balanced Budget
Act of 1995 (the `BBA'), as passed by the Congress, and have
also provided examples of items from earlier legislation that
would constitute limited tax benefits if the Line Item Veto
Act were in effect at the time such provisions were enacted.
(The Line Item Veto Act is scheduled to go into effect on
January 1, 1997, or the day after a seven-year balanced budget
act has been enacted, whichever is earlier.) The attached
list is not intended to be dispositive of exhaustive. The
Joint Committee staff continued to analyze the provisions
in the BBA and other tax legislation and it is possible that
additional provisions will be identified as limited tax benefits.
I hope that this information is helpful to you. If we can
be of further assistance, please let me know.
Sincerely,
Kenneth J. Kies,
Chief of Staff.
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Examples of Limited Tax Benefits Within the Meaning of S.
4, the Line-Item Veto Act
THE BALANCED BUDGET ACT (`BBA') OF 1995
1. Exemption from the generation-skipping transfer tax for
transfers to individuals with deceased parents (sec. 11074)
Under present law, a generation-skipping transfer tax generally
is imposed on transfers to an individual who is more than
one generation younger than the transferor. An exception provides
that a transfer from a grandparent to a grandchild is not
subject to the generation-skipping tax if the grandchild's
parent (who is the grandparent's child) is deceased at the
time of the transfer. The BBA provision would expand the present-law
exception to apply also in other limited circumstances, e.g.,
to transfers to grandnieces and grandnephews whose parents
are deceased.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 beneficiaries
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
It does not provide the same treatment to all persons engaged
in the same activity--making generation-skipping transfers--because
transfers to individuals with deceased parents would be treated
differently than transfers to individuals whose parents are
still alive.
2. Extension of the orphan drug tax credit (sec. 11114)
Prior to January 1, 1995, a 50-percent tax credit was allowed
for qualified clinical testing expenses incurred in the testing
of certain drugs for rare diseases or conditions. The BBA
provision would extend the credit through December 31, 1997.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 drug companies
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and all persons engaged in the activity of drug
testing are not treated the same. Only certain types of drug
testing would qualify for the credit.
3. Extension of binding contract date for biomass and coal
facilities (sec. 11142)
Under present law, a tax credit is provided for fuel produced
from certain `nonconventional sources.' In the case of synthetic
fuel produced from coal and gas produced from biomass, the
credit is available only for fuel from facilities placed in
service before January 1, 1997, pursuant to a binding contract
entered into before January 1, 1996. The BBA provision would
extend the credit to facilities placed in service before January
1, 1998, pursuant to a binding contract entered into before
July 1, 1996.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to affect fewer than 100 fuel producers,
and all persons engaged in the production of fuel from nonconventional
sources are not treated the same. Persons producing fuel from
nonconventional sources in facilities placed in service after
July 1, 1996 would not be eligible for the credit.
4. Exemption from diesel fuel dyeing requirements with respect
to certain States (sec. 11143)
Under present law, an excise tax is imposed on all diesel
fuel removed from a terminal facility unless the fuel is destined
for a non-taxable use and is indelibly dyed pursuant to Treasury
Department regulations. A similar dyeing regime exists for
diesel fuel under the Clean Air Act, but the State of Alaska
is partially exempt from the dyeing regime of the Clean Air
Act. The BBA provision would exempt diesel fuel sold in the
State of Alaska from the excise tax dyeing requirement during
the period when that State is exempt from the Clean Air Act
dyeing requirement.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 beneficiaries
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
The provision does not treat all persons engaged in the same
activity the same way, because persons removing diesel fuel
from terminals in Alaska would be treated differently than
those removing diesel fuel from terminals in other areas of
the United States.
5. Common investment fund for private foundations (sec. 11276)
The BBA provision would grant tax-exempt status to any cooperative
service organization comprised solely of members that are
tax-exempt private foundations and community foundations,
if the organization meets certain requirements and is organized
and operated solely to hold, commingle, and collectively invest
and reinvest funds contributed by the members in stocks and
securities, and to collect income from such investments and
turn over such income, less expenses, to the members.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 beneficiaries
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
The provision does not treat all persons engaged in the same
activity the same way, because mutual funds that are engaged
in the same type of activity, i.e., collectively investing
funds in stocks and securities, would not receive the benefit
of the provision.
6. Transition relief from repeal of section 936 credit (sec.
11305)
Under present law, certain domestic corporations with business
operations in the U.S. possessions may elect the section 936
credit which significantly reduces the U.S. tax on certain
income related to their operations in the possessions. The
BBA generally would repeal section
936 for taxable years beginning after December 31, 1995. However,
transition rules would be provided under which corporations
that are existing claimants under section 936 would be eligible
to claim credits for a transition period. One of these transition
rules would allow a corporation that is an existing claimant
with respect to operations in Guam, American Samoa, or the
Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands to continue to
determine its section 936 credit with respect to its operations
in such possessions under present law for its taxable years
beginning before January 1, 2006.
This transition rule for corporations operating in Guam,
American Samoa, or the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana
Islands is a `limited tax benefit' because it is expected
to provide transitional relief from a change to the Internal
Revenue Code to 10 or fewer beneficiaries in at least one
fiscal year in which the provision would be in effect, and
it does not meet the binding contract exception.
7. Modification to excise tax on ozone-depleting chemicals
(sec. 11332)
Under present law, an excise tax is imposed on the sale or
use by the manufacturer or importer of certain ozone-depleting
chemicals. Taxable chemicals that are recovered and recycled
within the United States are exempt from tax. The BBA provision
would extend the exemption to imported recycled halons.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 importers
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
Although anyone who imports recycled halons would receive
the same treatment under the provision, others engaged in
the manufacture or import of ozone-depleting chemicals would
not qualify for the exemption.
8. Modification to tax-exempt bond penalties for local furnishers
of electricity and gas (sec. 11333)
Under present law, tax-exempt bonds may be issued to benefit
private businesses engaged in the furnishing of electric energy
or gas if the business's service area does not exceed either
two contiguous counties or a city and one contiguous county.
If, after such bonds are issued, the service area is expanded
beyond the permitted geographic area, interest on the bonds
becomes taxable, and interest paid by the private parties
on bond-financed loans becomes nondeductible. The BBA provision
would allow private businesses engaged in the local furnishing
of electricity or gas to expand their service areas beyond
the geographic bounds allowed under present law without penalty
under certain specified circumstances.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 beneficiaries
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
All persons engaged in the activity of generating electricity
or gas would not be treated the same.
9. Tax-exempt bonds for sale of Alaska Power Administration
Facility (sec. 11334)
Under present law, tax-exempt bonds may be issued for the
benefit of certain private electric utilities. If the bonds
are used to finance acquisition of existing property by these
utilities, a minimum amount of rehabilitation must be performed
on the property as a condition of receiving the tax-exempt
bond financing. The BBA provision would waive the rehabilitation
requirement in the case of bonds to be issued as part of the
sale of the Snettisham facility by the Alaska Power Administration.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit only one issuer of tax-exempt
bonds, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
No other issuers of tax-exempt bonds would benefit from the
provision.
10. Transitional rule under section 2056A (sec. 11614)
Under present law, a marital deduction generally is allowed
for estate and gift tax purposes for the value of property
passing to a spouse. The marital deduction is not available
for property passing to a non-U.S.-citizen spouse outside
a qualified domestic trust (`QDT'). The requirements for a
qualified domestic trust were modified in the Omnibus Budget
Reconciliation Act of 1990 (`OBRA 1990'). The BBA provision
would allow trusts created before the enactment of OBRA 1990
to qualify as QDTs if they satisfy the requirements that were
in effect before the enactment of OBRA 1990.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 beneficiaries
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
The provision would benefit a closed group of taxpayers. Trusts
created before the enactment of OBRA 1990 would be treated
differently than trusts created after the enactment of OBRA
1990.
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11. Organizations subject to section 833 (sec. 11703)
Present-law section 833 (created in the Tax Reform Act of
1986) provides special tax benefits to Blue Cross or Blue
Shield organizations existing on August 16, 1986, which have
not experienced a material change in structure or operations
since that date. The BBA provision would extend this special
rule to other similarly-structured organizations that were
in existence on August 16, 1986, and have not materially changed
in structure or operations since that date.
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit fewer than 100 beneficiaries
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect, and all persons engaged in the same activity would
not be entitled to take the benefit. The benefit would be
available only to a closed group of taxpayers that were in
existence in 1986, and would not be available to any newly
formed entities.
EXAMPLES OF `LIMITED TAX BENEFITS' FROM OTHER STATUTES
1. The original income tax, as enacted in 1913, exempted the
sitting President
The 1913 Act imposing the first income tax provided an exemption
for the sitting President of the United States for the remainder
of his term. If the Line Item Veto Act had been applicable
at the time, the President would have had the option of canceling
this `limited tax benefit.'
2. Financial institution transition rule to interest allocation
rules
A provision in the Tax Reform Act of 1986 changed the rules
relating to how multinational corporations allocate interest
expense for foreign tax credit purposes. The provision included
a favorable rule for banks, and also included a special exception
allowing `certain' nonbanks to use the favorable bank rule.
The special exception applied to any corporation if `(A) such
corporation is a Delaware corporation incorporated on August
20, 1959, and (B) such corporation was primarily engaged in
the financing of dealer inventory or consumer purchases on
May 29, 1985, and at all times thereafter before the close
of the taxable year.' P.L. 99-514, 100 Stat. 2548, sec. 1215(c)(5).
This transition rule would have been a `limited tax benefit'
if it were expected to provide transitional relief from a
change to the Internal Revenue Code to 10 or fewer beneficiaries
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect. (In retrospect, it is believed that 10 or fewer
beneficiaries actually received the benefit of this provision.)
3. Community development corporations
The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 included a
provision that created an income tax credit for entities that
make qualified cash contributions to one of 20 `community
development corporations' (`CDCs') to be selected by the Secretary
of HUD using certain selection criteria. Each CDC could designate
which contributions (up to $2 million per CDC) would be eligible
for the credit.
This provision would have constituted a `limited tax benefit'
if it were expected to provide a benefit to 100 or fewer contributors
in at least one fiscal year in which the provision would be
in effect. (In retrospect, it is believed that 100 or fewer
contributors received the benefit of this provision.) All
persons who engage in the activity of making contributions
to CDCs are not treated the same, and the difference is not
based upon size, filing status, or any of the other enumerated
factors.
4. Exemptions from cutbacks in meal and entertainment expense
deductions
Prior to 1986, a 100-percent deduction was provided for certain
meal and entertainment expenses. In 1986, the deduction was
reduced to an 80-percent deduction. In 1993, the
deduction was again reduced, to a 50-percent deduction. In
both 1986 and 1993, an exemption was provided for food and
beverages provided on an offshore oil or gas platform or drilling
rig. A separate exemption was provided for support camps in
proximity to and integral to such a platform or rig, if the
platform or rig is located in the United States north of 54
degrees north latitude (i.e., in Alaska).
These exemptions both would have been `limited tax benefits'
in 1986 if they had been expected to provide transitional
relief from a change to the Internal Revenue Code to 10 or
fewer beneficiaries in at least one fiscal year in which the
provision would be in effect.
5. Transition relief from private activity bond requirements
The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 created a new
category of private activity bond for bonds issued by a governmental
unit to acquire certain nongovernmental output property, e.g.,
electrical generation facilities. Such bonds generally are
subject to a State's annual private activity volume limitation.
However, specific transition relief was provided for `bonds
issued--(A) after October 13, 1987, by an authority created
by a statute--(i) approved by the State Governor on July 24,
1986 and (ii) sections 1 through 10 of which became effective
on January 15, 1987, and (B) to provide facilities serving
the area specified in such statute on the date of its enactment.'
This provision is a `limited tax benefit' because it loses
revenue, it is expected to benefit only on issuer of tax-exempt
bonds, and it does not fall within any of the stated exceptions.
No other issuers of tax-exempt bonds would benefit from the
provision.
6. Various Tax Reform Act of 1986 provisions
The Tax Reform Act of 1986 contains a number of provisions
that are clearly targeted to only one taxpayer (in some cases,
even referring to the taxpayer by name). For example:
`* * * indebtedness (which was outstanding on May 29, 1985)
of a corporation incorporated on June 13, 1917, which has
its principal place of business in Bartlesville, Oklahoma.'
(sec. 1215(c)(2)(D))
`In the case of an affiliated group of domestic corporations
the common parent of which has its principal office in New
Brunswick, New Jersey, and has a certificate of organization
which was filed with the Secretary of the State of New Jersey
on November 10, 1887 * * *' (sec. 1215(c)(6)(A))
A facility if `(i) such facility is to be used by both a
National Hockey League team and a National Basketball Association
team, (ii) such facility is to be constructed on a platform
using air rights over land acquired by a State authority and
identified as site B in a report dated May 30, 1984, prepared
for a State urban development corporation, and (iii) such
facility is eligible for real property tax (and power and
energy) benefits pursuant to State legislation approved and
effective as of July 7, 1982.' (sec. 1317(3)(S))
`A project is described in this subparagraph if such project
is consistent with an urban renewal plan adopted or ordered
prepared before August 28, 1986, by the city council of the
most populous city in a state which entered the Union on February
14, 1859.' (sec. 1317(6)(U))
A facility if `(i) such facility is to be used for an annual
civic festival, (ii) a referendum was held in the spring of
1985 in which voters permitted the city council to lease 130
acres of dedicated parkland to such festival, and (iii) the
city council passed an inducement resolution on June 19, 1986.'
(sec. 1317(7)(J))
A residential rental property if `(i) it is a new residential
development with approximately 98 dwelling units located in
census tract No. 4701, and (ii) there was an inducement ordinance
for such project adopted by a city council on August 14, 1984.'
(sec. 1317(13)(M))
`A facility is described in this subparagraph if it consists
of the rehabilitation of the Andover Town Hall in Andover,
Massachusetts.' (sec. 1317(27)(I))
Proceeds of an issue if `(i) such issue is issued on behalf
of a university established by Charter granted by King George
II of England on October 31, 1754, to accomplish a refunding
(including an advance refunding) of bonds issued to finance
1 or more projects, and (ii) the application or other request
for the issuance of the issue to the appropriate State issuer
was made by or on behalf of such university before February
26, 1986.' (sec. 1317(33)(C))
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my
time.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time to
the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Armey].
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Armey] is recognized for 12 minutes.
Mr. ARMEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
time to me.
Mr. Speaker, when we wrote the Contract With America, we
promised the American people a new deal, a change, a real
change which would be meaningful in their real lives. We promised
innovation and responsiveness.
Today we bring forward the Contract With America Advancement
Act, and it includes the line-item veto. The line-item veto
is something the American people have called for for years.
The chairman of the committee, the gentleman from Texas [Mr.
Archer], who first came to Congress with Richard Nixon was
in the White House, introduced the line-item veto at that
time.
Through the end of the Nixon Presidency and through the Ford
Presidency, through the Carter Presidency, the Reagan Presidency,
the Bush Presidency, and thus far through the Clinton Presidency,
the chairman has fought for a line-item veto, and through
all that time the other party, while in the majority, were
unwilling to give this authority to the President of the United
States. They were unwilling to give this authority to any
President, Republican or Democrat, because they claimed it
for themselves, in defiance of the will of the American people.
Today we will pass it, Mr. Speaker.
We promised and we are delivering today, regulatory reform
to give relief to the small business men and women of this
country who create the majority of our new good jobs. Again,
we are trying to roll back the regulatory steamroller that
has been running over small business in America and has been
the hallmark of initiatives of the past Democrat majorities.
In this landmark piece of legislation, we are increasing
the limitation on earnings available to our senior citizens
before they see a reduction of their Social Security benefits,
benefits that were bought and paid for with after-tax dollars
throughout all their working years, a simple justice for senior
Americans, denied to them for all these years by the Democrat
majorities in the past.
They say we are late in getting this done. In the first few
months of the second session of our first term in the majority
in 40 years, they say we are late in getting done what it
is they never would or never could even try to do. We will
stand on our
promptness. These contract items that will go forward today,
I expect the President will sign. Unhappily, he has vetoed
others.
The President has already vetoed lower taxes for the working
men and women of this country. Welfare reform, much needed
and much called for by the people of this country, the President
has vetoed twice. A balanced budget the President has vetoed;
significant spending reductions and reform, the President
has vetoed. The President has not been an agent of change
for the American people, Mr. Speaker. The President has been
a veto for the status quo.
When the President vetoed these bills, he shut down the Government,
and yes, he won a short-term public relations battle. Many
were counting us out in our new majority by the end of last
year, but we came back in March, and we are back. We have
just completed the most productive month of this Congress.
During this month of March we have passed a farm bill that
is truly revolutionary, taking agriculture in a new direction
of freedom for all Americans.
As I have observed the move of farm policy in the past, I
have found myself observing that when the American farmers
bit on it and joined a partnership with the Federal Government,
they became the junior partners, not free on their own land.
We are fixing that this month.
We are passing this month a job that we began in 1990, that
we had prepared in 1991, that was disallowed to come to this
floor by the Democrat majority in 1991, that would move health
legislation to end job lock, and would make insurance more
affordable for all Americans. That will be done before we
leave this week.
We will pass this week product liability reforms. The gentleman
from Illinois, Henry Hyde, our distinguished chairman of the
Committee on the Judiciary, sat on that committee for 22 years,
22 years of time when the American people cried for relief
from the product liability laws that were choking off job
creation in America, and the gentleman from Illinois never
got to see even a single hearing on the subject under Democrat
chairmen. We will pass that on to the President this week.
He says he will veto it on behalf of the trial lawyers.
We have passed already in March the most effective death
penalty ever. We have passed an immigration reform that, one,
protects our borders; and two, reflects the true openness
and compassion to lovers of freedom that this country has
demonstrated through its foundation and through its entire
history.
Today in Roll Call, Mr. Speaker, this legislation was called
landmark and nontraditional. It is landmark and it is nontraditional,
nontraditional in the sense that for the past 40 years we
had a do-nothing majority that only chose to build on the
status quo, never chose to dare to take a chance on freedom,
never chose to dare to innovate, never chose to keep faith
and be responsive to the demands of the American people.
We are doing that today, and we will do that through the
rest of this term, and we will do that in the next Congress,
because, Mr. Speaker, the American people deserve a Congress
that has the ability to know their goodness and the decency
to respect it. That is what they will have.
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Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Speaker, this is one of those occasions when
every Member should be mindful of the undertaking that we
make at the beginning of every Congress to protect and defend
the Constitution of the United States, because adopting the
line-item veto provision in this proposed bill would run absolutely
counter to that obligation. The first words of Article I,
sec. 1 of the Constitution are, `All legislative powers herein
granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States.'
Later in Article I, sec. 7 dealing with the President's responsibility
with regard to legislation, the Constitution states as follows:
`If he approve, he shall sign it,'--the bill--`but, if not,
he shall return it with his objections.'
Those are the basic parameters of the legislative responsibilities
that we have under the Constitution and that the President
has under the Constitution, and it is not in our power to
change them. It is our responsibility in fact to respect and
preserve them.
While our friends across the ocean in Britain are having
second thoughts these days about their monarchy, this line-item
veto provision will effectively start the accretion of monarchical
power in the American presidency. The Founders would surely
be appalled.
Incredibly, under this proposal, after an appropriations
bill has been passed by the Congress and signed it into law,
the President can repeal, the authors of this bill say `cancel,'
those parts of that law he opposes by the mere act of writing
them down on paper and sending the list to Congress. This
`repeal' power may be suitable for Royalty but it is an unconstitutional
insult to the principle of representative democracy.
Recall those grand words of the Declaration of Independence
in which we protested the usurpation of power by King George,
and mark my words, we will live to regret the usurpation of
power that we invite on the part of future Presidents of the
United States if this provision becomes law.
Thank God the courts stand ready to do the right thing and
to find this provision, as it is, contrary to the Constitution.
The Supreme Court has spoken to this issue most recently
and on point in the Chadha case, there making it absolutely
clear that the powers of neither branch with respect to the
division of responsibility on legislation can be legislatively
eroded.
What is even more bizarre in this particular proposal is
the provision for the 5 day cancellation period. Now think
about that. This is a metaphysical leap of Herculean proportions.
The enactment provisions of the Constitution say that once
the President signs a bill, it shall be law. We propose that
he then has a 5 day cancellation right, after signing a bill?
That is absolutely absurd. This defies any logical reading
of the clear meaning to the provisions of the Constitution
that delineate the roles and powers of Congress and the President
with respect to legislation.
But beyond the constitutional arguments, this proposal is
fundamentally unwise. And, sadly, it manifests a shameful
disrespect by us of our own responsibilities and the Constitution.
On the large issues, let us think back to what would have
happened during the Reagan administration, with a President
who, for his own reasons, sent budgets to this body zeroing
most
categories of education funding in the Federal budget. Presumably,
if that President had this power, it would be exercised to
eliminate most education funding by the United States Government,
and 34 Senators representing 9 percent of the people of this
country, in league with the President, could have brought
about the outcome.
The invitation to usurpation that lies in this language is
even more pernicious and can also be understood by going back
to the late eighties, when we were still debating whether
we would continue aid to the Contras. Now, let's say I happened
to have been fortunate enough to have gotten a provision in
an appropriations bill for a needed post office or a needed
courthouse in my district, and the bill was down at the White
House awaiting signature at the same time we were debating
aid to the Contras. I would guarantee you I would have gotten
a call from someone at the White House saying `Congressman,
I notice you had some success in dealing with this need in
your district. We are pleased at that, but we need your support
on aid to the Contras.' The not so subtle message: your vote
on what we want, or you lose the post office.
That is the kind of extortionate excess of power that we
are inviting future presidents to apply.
Pick your issue. That is one that comes to my mind.
It is clear that the Governors of the several States who
have this power use it in exactly this way, to get their version
of spending adopted. As one former Governor recently stated,
the real use of the line-item veto power he had as Governor
was not to control a bloated budget but to persuade legislators
to change their votes on important issues. Ironically, this
may actually result in more spending; in most cases, certainly
no reduction.
Last year, the majority in this body rejected the expedited
rescissions proposal that represented a constitutionally acceptable
approach to this issue, requiring each Member of Congress
to be accountable with a specific vote on any items a President
might find objectionable enough to rescind. Without that mechanism
for requiring congressional reconsideration, the line-item
veto proposal before us is clearly unconstitutional.
The language in the Constitution clearly gives Congress the
responsibility for crafting legislation, while the President
is limited to simple approval or disapproval of bills presented
to him. Article I, section 7 refers to the President returning
a bill, not pieces of a bill. Yes, the Constitution allows
the President to state his objections to a bill upon returning
it, but the objections merely serve as guidelines for Congress
should it choose to redraft the legislation.
We have no legitimate power to pass a statute to the contrary.
The Constitution does not allow the President to repeal a
provision of law by striking a spending level approved by
Congress. We have no legitimate power to pass a statute to
the contrary.
As the Supreme Court noted in its decision I.N.S. versus
Chadha, `Explicit and unambiguous provisions of the Constitution
prescribe and define the respective functions of the Congress
and of the Executive in the legislative process.'
The Court continues, `These provisions of Article 1 are integral
parts of the constitutional design for the separation of powers.'
The line-item veto proposal in the bill before us would impermissibly
alter the `constitutional design for the separation of powers'
between the executive and legislative branches by allowing
the President singlehandedly to repeal or amend legislation
which Congress has approved, and the President has already
signed into law.
The Framers were deliberate and precise in dividing legislative
powers. In the Federalist papers, Hamilton and Madison both
expressed the view that the legislature would be the most
powerful branch of government. Thus, they also recognized
the need for some checks on its powers. So, the Constitution
provides for a bicameral legislature, with each body elected
under different terms and districts. And it affords the President
a veto power. Other constraints are also imposed, such as
requirements for origination of certain legislation in the
House.
The President's veto power, as a check on Congress, was recognized
to be a blunt instrument. As Hamilton explains in Federalist
73, the Framers acknowledged that with the veto power `the
power of preventing bad laws includes that of preventing good
ones.' It was their sense, however, that `the negative would
be employed with great caution.'
The line-item veto being considered today, by providing the
President with the authority to repeal or `cancel' appropriations
and some tax laws, turns the framework defined in article
I, section 7 on its head. What the President might decide
to `cancel' under this provision is simply repealed, unless
the Congress goes through an entire repetition of the article
I legislative process, including a two-thirds vote of both
houses. This would allow the President and a minority in only
one house of Congress to frustrate the will of the majority--an
outcome that flies in the face of the constitutional principle
of majority rule.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, I must comment on a very deceptive
provision of this line-item veto bill. The authors of the
bill claim it doesn't focus unfairly on appropriations bills--which
traditionally include funding for education, environmental,
health, and other governmental programs--because it also includes
tax provisions among the items the President can `cancel.'
But, the only tax provisions that can be cancelled are `limited
tax benefits,' defined as revenue-losing provisions that provide
a benefit to `100 or fewer beneficiaries under the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986.' A tax break for a particular industry
that takes millions of dollars out of the Federal treasury
can't be cancelled by the President. And even a so-called
limited tax break can be easily finessed--that is, immunized
from veto--if the conference report merely fails to identify
it as such.
Why? I think the answer is obvious. Many members of the majority
party are fond of handing out tax breaks to their friends
in particular industries. So, under this bill, a member who
wants to include funding in an appropriations bill for a national
park in her Congressional District must worry about the President
cancelling a benefit to her District, but a member who wants
to provide funding to his favorite industry or business by
including a tax break in a larger tax bill doesn't need to
be concerned.
Mr. Chairman, this proposal goes too far in fuzzing the separation
of powers set forth in the Constitution. It subjects members
of Congress to a new, extreme form of executive branch pressure.
It unfairly targets appropriation expenditures while ignoring
most tax expenditures. I urge my colleagues to reject it before
it is rejected by the courts. Regrettably, this provision
so taints this entire bill, otherwise needed to extend the
debt limit, that the bill itself should be defeated.
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Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this legislation
to raise the debt ceiling because I do not believe we can
allow our Government to go into default. To do otherwise would
wreak havoc on our Nation's good standing and would result
in Social Security and Veterans benefits from being sent out.
It is difficult to take this action but I can tell you that
because of this Congress' vigilance we have already saved
approximately $23 billion in spending over the past year.
This is a very good start on the road to achieving a balanced
budget.
There are two provisions in particular that are included
in this measure that allow me to vote in favor of H.R. 3136.
We provide the means to give the President the line-item
veto. President Reagan asked Congress over and over again--`Give
me the line-item veto.' If only Congress had given him this
mechanism for fiscal discipline, we wouldn't have these huge
debts which, if not reduced, threaten to crush the next generation
with huge taxes and a diminished quality of life.
Today we have been given a rare opportunity to enact legislation
that will accomplish this.
My other chief reason for voting for this bill is that it
contains an increase in the earnings limit for those age 65
to 69 to $30,000 by the year 2002. Currently, a working senior
who reaches $11,280 in earned income loses $1 in Social Security
for each $3 earned thereafter. That's a marginal tax rate
of 33 percent. That's a high price for merely wanting to work.
The earnings test limit is unjust. It treats Social Security
benefits less like a pension and more like welfare. It represents
a Social Security bias in favor of unearned income over earned
income.
It is effectively a mandatory retirement mechanism our country
no longer accepts or needs. It precludes greater flexibility
for the elderly worker and also prevents America's full use
of eager, experienced and educated elderly workers. Finally,
it deprives the U.S. economy of the additional income tax
which would be generated by the elderly workers.
Let's pass this bill today so that we can get America back
on the right track.
Mr. VENTO. Mr. Speaker, I reluctantly support this measure,
H.R. 3136, the debt limit package. First, we need to honor
the debt which our Nation has incurred. The U.S. credit rating
must not be in question, nor should the risk of default. For
over 200 years through civil and world wars, recession and
depression, the United States has honored our debt.
Certainly it is deplorable that the total U.S. debt has grown
so dramatically in the past decades, but the 1993 Clinton
budget measure passed by Congress has had a dramatic and positive
impact. The deficit of 1996 is half of the 1993 projected
1996 deficit, lowering the amount of deficit by $150 billion
this 1996 fiscal year, and at the same time our Nation's economy
has performed positively, inflation is in check, unemployment
remains low and productivity growth, G.D.P., and business
profitability are strong.
This debt ceiling will act to accommodate the Federal budget
needs until late 1997. It is past time to take this off the
Republican political agenda. The threat of default and intimidation
won't work, to sell GOP budget programs that lack merit.
Included in this package of legislative measures is a constitutionally
questionable line item veto power for the President. President
Clinton, of course, wants this power, but this sloppy rearrangement
of the fundamental separation of powers proviso won't pass
muster. Furthermore, the line item veto power in this promises
much but delivers little. First, it doesn't apply to authorization
and appropriation riders.
Therefore, the environmental riders so controversial this
fiscal year would be beyond the line item veto reach of this
measure. Second, it only applies to categories of spending,
making it impossible to single out the specific bad apple
in the basket. Finally it doesn't apply to bad tax policy,
only specific narrow tax provisions of specific small groups
as certified by the Joint Tax Committee.
Yet another dubious congressional limit in the constitutional
separation of powers and unique congressional authority which
cannot be delegated to the nonelected apparently is the rush
to give away congressional powers held by the previous Democratic
Congress. The Republicans have today sold symbolism, not substance,
to the Executive Office, and they bought it. To add further
limits, the measure has a short life--1997 to 2005. This line
item veto is weak, not likely to be effective and will be
rendered inoperable by the courts and/or its limited scope.
Everyone can record it on their political campaign literature
as an accomplishment, that's probably its best use; other
issues added to the debt ceiling measure apparently are popular
and the further price of the 2-year debt ceiling which the
President agreed to. I'm concerned that the expanded Social
Security earning limit, the retirement test ceiling may undermine
support for the Social Security Retirement System. The basic
predicate of Social Security retirement is that the beneficiary
is no longer working. This means a job and slot is available
to a less senior worker.
For many, this elevated ceiling means they will receive Social
Security retirement benefits but remain on the same job, in
essence claiming a retirement income and the wages of a worker.
The idea regarding the Social Security retirement is that
workers are not able to continue working and that the Social
Security income provides for that person and family during
that phase of one's life. At least this measure maintains
a ceiling and earlier versions lifted it even further.
The income group that benefits from this provision is healthy
and generally better off financially. It would be regrettable
if the upshot of this policy change would undermine Social
Security retirement for those unable to work.
Finally, this overall bill contains some regulatory relief
for smaller enterprises. Candidly, I've had serious reservations
about the broad ranging measures that try to pass as regulatory
relief. Too many have been put forth and passed by the 104th
Congress whose intent was to render inoperable important health,
safety, and environmental laws.
Rules and regulations are the wheels which carry laws into
implementation. Usually the Administrative Procedures Act
[APA] provides sufficient assurance of participation and monitoring
of the executive department or agency rule and regulatory
process. The features of this provision seems reasonable--ironically
expanding the potential for lawsuits and litigation--after
the Republican majority in this House and Congress have beat
the drum and attempted to enact ill considered punitive measures
on the legal process and limiting the peoples right to seek
redress.
Mr. Speaker, legislation is the art of compromise and as
we can note from this document a big dose of symbolism. I'm
voting for this measure with little enthusiasm, but with a
pragmatic eye.
The Republicans have finally arrived at a point of talking
with a Democratic President and have convinced themselves
to move forward on the debt ceiling, the main vehicle and
single most important engine which necessitates this legislation
before the House.
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Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I am opposed to the regulatory
reform provisions of the bill for the following reasons.
On process: This bill has never been considered by the Judiciary
Committee or by any other committee in the House. It's stealth
process--we only saw the final draft late last night--continues
the Republican record of disdain for the committees and for
proper democratic process. This bill was created by a secret
process in the House, and will allow special interests to
secretly influence regulations in the executive branch.
The secret influences of the few: Under the bill, so-called
Regulatory Fairness Boards and Advocacy Panels are to be established
to directly influence the content of regulations and the nature
of regulatory enforcement. These boards are to be made up
solely of a few favored small businesses, and can include
exclusively campaign contributors.
Ex parte contacts in reg writing: The boards and advocacy
panels will provide an avenue for private ex parte contacts
with the agencies and the OIRA administrator to influence
regulations and enforcement--a departure from the commonly
accepted principle that the regulation writing process should
be open and on the record. They provide an ex parte and secret
forum for these favored businesses to complain about how statutorily
mandated regulations are written and enforced.
Yet another attack on the environment: While we all support
the concept of regulatory flexibility--that is helping small
businesses comply with a vast array of Federal regulations--this
bill takes the concept to the extreme. For it allows the waiver
of some of our most important environmental penalties relating
to safe drinking water and clean air. If, for example, it
happens to be a small business that is operating a chemical
manufacturing operation or a small business that is a water
supplier, laws protecting citizens from drinking water hazards
like cryptosporidium or other chemical contamination could
simply be waived (section 323). Our environmental safety and
health is at risk from these hazards regardless of the source
of the hazards.
Still more litigation for the lawyers: Section 611 allows
for environmental regulations that protect our air, water,
food, and workplaces to be suspended or even overturned by
the courts if these and other ill-defined provisions are not
strictly adhered to. This judicial review is different from
what the House has voted on in the past--for past regulatory
flexibility bills that we've voted on allow for judicial review
of the reg flex analysis only. This bill, however, could put
hundreds of environmental rules at risk, and subject them
to endless litigation in the courts for merely procedural
reasons that are only marginally related to the fundamental
issues surrounding the promulgation of the rule.
Mrs. MALONEY. Mr. Speaker, I intend to vote for this bill.
It contains measures which I strongly support. Most importantly,
raising the debt ceiling is absolutely essential to ensuring
the continued full faith and credit of the United States.
Without passage of this bill, the economic security of our
country would be gravely imperiled. The legislation also contains
provisions to relieve the regulatory burden on our Nation's
small businesses and a measure, which I strongly support,
to increase the earnings limit for Social Security recipients.
This measure also contains a line-item veto provision about
which I have very serious concerns. First, this conference
report grants to the President the significant power to item
veto new entitlement spending. Spending on Medicare, Medicaid,
Social Security, and food stamps help out most vulnerable
citizens, the elderly, and infirm. The original House bill,
and the Republican's own contract on America, did not grant
this authority.
The line-item veto provision before us today also would not
become effective until January 1, 1997. This timing conveniently
exempts the fiscal year 1997 appropriations cycle from Presidential
line-item vetoes. Cynics might conclude that the Republican
majority wants one last chance to tuck the pet projects into
this year's appropriations bills.
Finally and most egregiously Mr. Chairman, this line-item
veto measure takes a loophole included in the House-passed
bill and expanded it into a black hole for special interests.
The House bill included a provision on allowing the President
to item veto targeted tax breaks. Unfortunately, the majority
breached its own contract in defining that term very narrowly
to mean only those tax give-aways that affect 100 or fewer
people. This artificial number can easily be fudged by a smart
tax lawyer--you simply have to help out 101 or 102 people.
This conference report includes this loophole and expands
it into a black hole for special interests by allowing the
President to item veto only those targeted tax benefits identified
by the Joint Committee on Taxation, a committee controlled
by the tax writing committees of Congress. So if they say
it isn't a special interest tax break, the President can never
veto it. Mr. Chairman, this is a sham.
The Republican Party was committed to the much broader definition
right up to the moment they gained the majority, then they
had a sudden change of heart. With this bill the Republicans
claim they will end special interest tax breaks, but if you
read the fine print you'll see they expect nothing of the
kind.
Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Speaker, this Member rises in support of
H.R. 3136, the Contract With America Advancement Act.
This Member is particularly pleased that, as reported on
the House floor H.R. 3136 included the Line-Item Veto Act.
An important tool in the battle to reduce spending would be
to give the President line-item veto authority.
A line-item veto would enable the President to veto individual
items in an appropriations bill without vetoing the entire
bill. With a line-item veto the executive could strike a pen
to the pork-barrel projects that too often find their way
into appropriations bills.
This power is currently given to 43 of the Nation's Governors,
where it has been a successful tool that discourages unnecessary
expenditures at the State level. It is appropriate that the
President have this authority as well.
This Member has cosponsored legislation to institute a line-item
veto since 1985, and is pleased that this initiative may soon
be enacted into law. Legislation to provide for a line-item
veto has been introduced in Congress for over 100 years. The
time has come to recognize the need for more stringent and
binding budget mechanisms.
This Member is also pleased that H.R. 3136 raises the limit
on income senior citizens may earn and still receive full
Social Security benefits. In the last three Congresses, this
Member cosponsored related legislation, and has consistently
supported efforts to reduce or eliminate the Social Security
earnings limit on senior citizens who must work to make ends
meet. Seniors of modest means who have to work to supplement
their Social Security checks should be allowed to work without
paying an effective marginal tax rate higher than that of
millionaires.
In addition, this legislation also includes much-needed regulatory
relief provisions that would inject some common sense into
the current regulatory and bureaucratic framework which now
exists.
Federal regulations cost the economy hundred so billions
of dollars each year. Too often, these regulations were not
based on sound science and resulted in little or no benefit
to society. This is an issue which must be addressed to provide
relief from the plethora of Federal regulations.
This Member urges his colleagues to support H.R. 3136 as
reported to the House floor, in order to advance important
initiatives to establish a line-item veto, provide regulatory
relief, and limit an unfair tax on senior citizens.
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Mr. FRANKS of Connecticut. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong
support of H.R. 3136, the Contract With America Advancement
Act, a measure to provide for a line-item veto, for Social
Security benefits relief for our senior citizens and for small
business regulatory reform.
Mr. Speaker, during my tenure in the Congress, I have been
a solid and steady advocate of a platform that recognizes
we need to bring real change to this Federal Government of
ours. For example, during my freshman and sophomore years,
I had sponsored legislation providing for the implementation
of a Presidential line-item veto to end the days where the
legislatively-spawned Government pork and largesse would cause
our deficit to grow like an unkempt bush in one's front yard
and the President would not have the hedge clippers to trim
it.
However, during those two Congresses, I and other fervent
supporters of the line-item veto had been frustrated and thwarted
by the then-Democratic majority. The Democrats would say that
a line-item veto would render Congress impotent or that Congress
does not need to use such a draconian measure as a line-item
veto and that we can solve our Nation's fiscal problems by
just saying no to pork. Mr. Speaker, I did not accept the
Democrats' empty assurances about spending then, and my instincts
were proved current when that supposed discipline was nowhere
to be found.
Thankfully, Mr. Speaker, times have changed. With the passage
of H.R. 3136, the President of the United States, be he Republican
or Democrat, will be able to eliminate specific spending and
target tax provision in legislation passed by the Congress.
This is important, for now the President will have the ability
to veto out pork barrel spending in a bill which he may view
in an otherwise favorable light. Mr. Speaker, this is a mechanism
that 43 of our Governors now possess, and we should extend
it to the President of the United States.
Mr. Speaker, I also want to take note of other provisions
in H.R. 3136 that I support. I feel that the bill's provisions
which raise the limit of income senior citizens may earn while
still receiving full Social Security benefits would be beneficial
to those concerned.
Presently, senior citizens between the ages of 65 and 69
lose $1 in Social Security benefits for every $3 they earn
above $11,520 while the earnings test amounts to an additional
33 percent marginal tax rate on top of existing income taxes.
Because of this, seniors who want to work past the age 64
would not have the ability to remain productive, and thus,
they are unfairly treated. H.R. 3136 would gradually raise
the earnings limit for seniors between the ages of 65 and
90 from the current level of $11,520 to $30,000 by the year
2002.
I have spoken with many seniors around my district, and they,
Mr. Speaker, have indicated to me that this measure sounds
like a pretty good idea. Many of the seniors in my district
still want to work full time or part time. They want to be
productive members of society and by raising the limit on
income, they can achieve this desired lifestyle. We should
definitely support this initiative.
Finally, I rise in full support of the measures in H.R. 3136
which would provide regulatory relief to our Nation's small
businesses. Presently, Federal regulations cost our Nation's
small businesses an astronomical $430 billion per year while
spending a ludicrous 1.9 billions hours per year completing
Federal regulatory forms.
Included in these relief provisions are reforms providing
for regulatory compliance simplification, regulatory flexibility,
procedures for Congress to disapprove new regulations, and
small business legal fees associated with fighting excessive
proposed penalties.
Mr. Speaker, small businesses are the true lifeblood of our
Nation's economy. By helping our small businesses by providing
regulatory fairness, we will truly help our workers, our families,
our towns and our cities.
Mr. Speaker, I support H.R. 3136, and I urge my colleagues
to do likewise when it comes time to vote.
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak
about H.R. 3136, the Contract With America Advancement Act.
I will vote for this bill because it raises the debt limit,
however, I must state that I would have preferred a clean
debt limit bill. I support the increase in the earnings limit
for social security beneficiaries, however, I would like to
have had more debate about the small business regulatory flexibility
provisions.
I am a strong supporter of small business, which is the foundation
of America's economic base. I support regulatory flexibility
for small business and having clear guidelines so that small
businesses can more easily comply with Government standards.
However, I have concerns about bogging down Government agencies
in frivolous lawsuits that would draw their attention away
from maintaining Government standards for the environment
and ensuring workplace safety.
Mr. Speaker, I would also like to discuss this bill in the
context of the current ongoing budget debate, and I would
urge that we as a body do more for the American people than
pass a debt limit increase. Although we will be discussing
other important issues the Health Coverage Availability Act,
I would like to remind this House of the glaring fact that
we do not yet have a balanced budget for the United States,
when this fiscal year is half over, and we have not provided
funding for all of the Government agencies that serve the
American public. This outrageous fact is not forgotten by
the American people, and I would urge the leadership on both
sides to not forget their duty to the citizens of this country.
The summer is fast approaching and teens that participate
in the Summer Jobs Program are wondering if the budget will
leave their program intact, or if it will be eliminated. Students
and families across the country are wondering what is going
on in this House.
Mr. Speaker, I will vote for this debt limit increase bill,
but I would urge my colleagues to remember that we are not
finished with the budget and that the American people are
watching and that they know what the real issues are. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker, and I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. EWING of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support
of this legislation which contains judicial review of the
Regulatory Flexibility Act [RFA].
This is an issue which I have been heavily involved in for
nearly 5 years, when I was first elected to Congress in 1991.
At that time, one of the top concerns I heard about from my
constituents was the burden of excessive Federal regulations.
Small businesses in particular felt that the money and time
they spent complying with rules and regulations handed down
from the Federal Government were crippling their ability to
complete and invest in productive activity. In the 4 1/2 years
since I was elected, these concerns have only increased.
When I was elected, I looked for ways to reduce unnecessary
regulation. I found that way back in 1980 Congress passed,
and President Carter signed into law, the RFA. Simply put,
the RFA required Federal regulators to conduct an analysis
of the impact of any proposed new regulation could have on
small businesses and small governmental entities. The RFA
required the regulators to seek corrective ways to minimize
the impact of those proposed rules before they are finalized.
Despite the good intentions of the RFA, the act has been
almost totally ignored by Federal regulators for the 16 years
its has been on the books. When I looked further into this
issue, I found that Federal agencies were routinely using
a loophole in the law which allows then to publish a statement
in the Federal Register certifying that their regulation does
not affect a significant number of small entities, and therefore
allowing the agency to avoid conducing the analyses required
by the RFA. In fact, I found that RFA analyses are rarely
conducted, even when a regulation clearly would have a major
impact on the small entities being regulated.
Herein lies the achilles heel of the RFA. When an agency
certifies that a regulation will not significantly affect
small entities, that certification cannot be challenged in
court. A small business owner is prohibited from asking the
courts to review whether the Federal agency has complied with
the RFA. It is because the agencies know their decision to
ignore the RFA cannot be challenged that they almost always
do ignore the act. This fact has been confirmed to me as I
have met with dozens of small business organizations and hundreds
of small business owners over the past 4 years to discuss
this issue. A number of hearings have been held in both the
Small Business Committee and the Judiciary Committee and scores
of witnesses have convinced me and many others in Congress
that without judicial review, the Federal regulators will
continue to ignore the RFA.
Many of us talk about reducing the cost which Government
regulations impost on the American economy, but with passage
of this legislation this Congress is actually doing something
about it. We are living up to our campaign promises to make
the Government less intrusive, less burdensome on the private
sector. We will make Government regulations more sensible,
more responsive to those who must comply with them. And we
will do it without jeopardizing the environment, or public
health and safety.
Many of this issues we debate in Congress have become polarized
by partisanship and deep philosophical differences. But this
issue, providing judicial review of the RFA, is a fine example
of how both parties can identify a problem which the American
people want us to fix, and how we
can work together, both Republicans and Democrats, to solve
a problem and help the American people. I am proud to have
worked in a bipartisan fashion with Jan Meyers, Ike Skelton,
and John LaFalce for 4 years to pass judicial review of the
RFA. Working together, we convinced over 250 Members of the
last Congress to cosponsor our legislation, and have passed
RFA judicial review with overwhelming majorities in the House.
We have put aside our partisan differences to pass this commonsense
legislation.
The Republican Congress and President Clinton, who have disagreed
on so many issues, have come together in support of providing
judicial review of the RFA. Vice President Gore's Reinventing
Government Commission recommended providing RFA judicial review
as its top priority for the Small Business Administration.
RFA judicial review was again a top recommendation of the
White House Conference on Small Business conducted last year.
We have received letters pledging strong support for RFA judicial
review from the President, Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, and
SBA Administrator Philip Lader. I would like to request consent
to include those letters in the Record. Mr. Jere Glover, the
administration's chief advocate for small business, has been
a strong supporter of judicial review and his influence has
been very important.
Virtually every national small business organization has
been strongly supportive of RFA judicial review, but a handful
of groups have been active participants of the Regulatory
Flexibility Act coalition for the past 4 years, and have made
this issue a top priority for their members. I would like
to recognize these organizations for their outstanding work
and commitment to passing this legislation. Jim Morrison,
Benson Goldstein and Becky Anderson of the National Association
for the Self Employed have provided invaluable institutional
knowledge about how the RFA can and should work. David Voight
of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has also provided great institutional
knowledge about the RFA, and the Chamber has lent considerable
clout to this legislation. The National Federation of Independent
Business, and their employees Nelson Litterst and Kent Knutson,
have worked endlessly to mobilize hundreds of thousands of
small businesses in support of this legislation. Both the
NFIB and the Chamber of Commerce have included Reg Flex votes
in their `Key Vote' programs which have been extremely important
in informing Members of Congress about how important this
issue is to their small business constituents. Craig Brightup
and the National Roofing Contractors Association have made
this issue a top priority from the very beginning, and in
fact was the first small business organization to bring this
issue to my attention. Marcel Dubois and the American Trucking
Associations have been extremely active in mobilizing small
businesses in support of RFA judicial review. Finally, Tom
Halicki of the National Association of Towns and Townships
has played a critical role in bringing to the attention of
Congress the importance of judicial review not only to small
businesses, but to small governmental bodies as well.
Finally, I want to thank Representatives Meyers, LaFalce,
and Skelton and their staff, particularly Harry Katrichis
of the Small Business Committee, and Eric Nicoll of my staff
for their persistent dedication to passing this legislation
over the past 4 years.
Small Business Administration,
October 8, 1994.
Hon. Malcolm Wallop,
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
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Dear Senator Wallop: The Administration supports strong judicial
review of agency determinations under the Regulatory Flexibility
Act that will permit small businesses to challenge agencies
and receive strong remedies when agencies do not comply with
the protections afforded by this important statute.
In fact, the National Performance Review publicly endorsed
this policy to ensure that the Act's intent is achieved and
the regulatory and paperwork burdens on small businesses,
states, and other entities are reduced.
As Chairman of the Policy Committee of the National Performance
Review, under Vice President Gore's leadership I vigorously
advocate this position. I have continued to champion this
policy within the Administration.
If confirmed as Administrator of the U.S. Small Business
Administration, I will join the Congress and the small business
community in continued efforts to pass legislation for such
judicial review.
Thank you for your leadership on this important issue to
small business.
Sincerely,
Philip Lader,
Administrator-Designate.
--
The White House,
Washington, October 7, 1994.
Hon. Malcolm Wallop,
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
Dear Senator Wallop: Your particular question about the Administration's
position on judicial review of actions taken under the Regulatory
Flexibility Act has come to my attention.
As you have discussed with Senator Bumpers, the Administration
supports such judicial review of `Reg Flex.'
The Administration supports a strong judicial review provision
that will permit small businesses to challenge agencies and
receive meaningful redress when they choose to ignore the
protections afforded by this important statute.
In fact, the National Performance Review endorsed this policy
to ensure that the Act's intent is achieved and the regulatory
and paperwork burdens on small business, states, and other
entities are reduced.
Ironically, Phil Lader, our nominee for Administrator of
the Small Business Administration (whose nomination was voted
favorably today by a 22-0 vote of the Senate Small Business
Committee) has been a principal champion of judicial review
of `Reg Flex.' In his capacity as Chairman of the Policy Committee
on the National Performance Review, Phil vigorously advocated
this position. I know that, if confirmed, as SBA Administrator,
he would join us in continued efforts to win Congressional
support for such judicial review.
Sincerely,
Leon E. Panetta,
Chief of Staff.
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The Vice President,
Washington, November 1, 1994.
Hon. Thomas W. Ewing,
House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Representative Ewing: Thank you for contracting me regarding
the Regulatory Flexibility Act.
As the President and I have made clear, we strongly support
judicial review of agency determinations rendered under the
Regulatory Flexibility Act. We remain committed to securing
this important reform during the next Congress and will work
with Congress for the enactment of strong judicial review
for small businesses.
We also understand that it will be important to continue
our work with small businesses to ensure that such an amendment
provides a sensible, reasonable, and rational approach to
judicial review, as recommended by the National Performance
Review. As you know, the National Performance Review recommended
that which was (and continues to be) sought by the small business
community--i.e., an amendment that furthers the intent of
the Act and reduces the paperwork burdens on small businesses.
The President and I look forward to working with Congress
on this matter and appreciate your leadership in this area.
Sincerely,
Al Gore.
--
The White House,
Washington, October 8, 1994.
Hon. Malcolm Wallop,
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
Dear Senator Wallop: My Administration strongly supports
judicial review of agency determinations under the Regulatory
Flexibility Act, and I appreciate your leadership over the
past years in fighting for this reform on behalf of small
business owners.
Although legislation establishing such review was not enacted
during the 103rd Congress, my Administration remains committed
to securing this very important reform. Toward that end, my
Administration will continue to work with the Congress and
the small business community next year for enactment of a
strong judicial review that will permit small businesses to
challenge agencies and receive meaningful redress when agencies
ignore the protections afforded by this statute.
As you know, the National Performance Review endorsed this
policy to ensure that the Act's intent is achieved and the
regulatory and paperwork burdens on small business, states,
and other entities are reduced.
Again, thank you for your continued leadership in this area.
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton.
Mr. SHAW. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in support of H.R. 3136,
the Contract With America Advancement Act, which includes
language to raise the amount of money a senior citizen may
earn before losing Social Security benefits. Twice before
I have supported this legislation; in the Senior Citizens'
Equity Act, and in the Senior Citizens Right to Work Act.
Support of this legislation is my commitment to the senior
citizens of my district to remove the disincentive to continue
working after they begin receiving their Social Security benefits.
Increasing the Social Security earnings limit from $11,520
to $30,000 will significantly improve benefits for moderate-
and middle-income beneficiaries who work out of necessity,
not choice. It will also remove the penalty on those with
income from work, but not from other sources such as dividends
and interest. I urge my colleagues to help our Nation's seniors
by voting for this bill.
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Mr. DAVIS. Mr. Chairman, I rise to speak in favor of the
Senior Citizens' Right to Work Act which has been included
in H.R. 3136. This bill will encourage seniors between the
ages of 65 to 69 to work by eliminating financial penalties
on hardworking seniors who want to supplement meager Social
Security benefits. I strongly urge all of my colleagues to
support H.R. 3136 and our senior citizens by increasing the
Social Security earnings limit.
The Senior Citizens' Right to Work Act also contains a provision
which will eliminate Social Security disability benefits to
drug addicts and alcoholics. While I adamantly support this
provision, I would like to voice my concern about the fraud
and abuse that will occur as a result. Given past abuses in
the SSI and SSDI programs, we must be alert to the likelihood
that many of these drug addicts and alcoholics currently on
Federal disability rolls will attempt to requalify for Social
Security benefits under other disability categories. I believe
that more can and should be done to ensure accountability
in these programs, eliminate fraud and abuse, and save Federal
dollars.
Mr. Chairman, we should support referral and monitoring agency
programs that currently use national case tracking systems
to identify drug addicts and alcoholics who are improperly
receiving Federal checks. These types of programs have already
saved the Federal taxpayers millions of dollars that would
have been spent as a result of the fraudulent practices of
drug addicts and alcoholics. Unfortunately, this legislation,
in eliminating the drug addiction and alcoholism benefit category,
will also eliminate these types of tracking programs. I hope
that we can correct this blow to current fraud and abuse monitoring
practices in order to ensure that drug addicts and alcoholics
do not find a way around the major accomplishments we are
achieving today.
Mr. BROWN of California. Mr. Speaker, small manufacturing
businesses striving to meet Federal regulatory requirements
must have access to the technological information they need
to comply with Federal and State laws and regulations. Therefore,
I am pleased that the Regulatory Flexibility Act title of
this conference report makes it clear that any Federal agency
with the requisite expertise is empowered to help in this
effort. I am especially pleased that the Manufacturing Extension
Program [MEP] of the National Institute of Standards and Technology
will continue to provide its full menu of services in southern
California and throughout the Nation.
Those of us who have worked to promote the concept of technology
extension over the years are well aware of the unique roles
played by the Small Business Development Centers [SBDC], the
Agricultural Extension Service, and other specialized programs
in helping small business. Each of these programs, however,
has limited funding; even when they are all putting forth
their best efforts, there may not be enough resources to go
around. If small business people are required to take time
away from production to comply with environmental and other
standards, we want them to locate the help to do so as readily
as possible, whether that help comes from the Small Business
Administration, the Department of Commerce, or the Department
of Agriculture.
Given that SBDC's have a broad mission to serve all small
business, specialized programs like the MEP are
often best situated to meet the regulatory compliance needs
of small manufacturers. In my native southern California,
for example, there are many excellent examples where the MEP
provided help to small businesses that no SBDC could have
been expected to provide. Our region is blessed by a large
number of small manufacturers, including defense subcontractors,
who need very specialized assistance to meet California's
air and water quality standards. This led the MEP to set up
the Los Angeles Pollution Prevention Center, which provides
the specialized environmental engineering expertise both to
companies and also to other manufacturing extension centers.
Let me give some specific examples. Without this center,
it would have been extremely difficult for Nelson Name Plate,
a small manufacturer of metal and plastic nameplates, to survive
the mandated phase-out of chemicals it was using for cleaning
its brass stock. The center helped Nelson implement a closed
loop, customized cleaning system which required no modification
of its sanitation permits. The Pollution Prevention Center
also permitted Art-Craft, a 20-person firm in the Santa Barbara
area, to identify a waterborne primer for painting aircraft
which met the exacting standards of both Boeing and the Clean
Air Act and to develop the monitoring system it needed to
show compliance. It helped CUI, a medical prosthesis company,
to replace a curing process using ozone-depleting chemicals
with a low-cost, solvent-free process that led to reductions
both in hazardous wastes and air emissions.
Mr. Speaker, clearly it is in the Nation's interest to write
our laws so that small businesses can provide good jobs and
high-quality products while complying fully with environmental
and other important regulations. I thank the conferees on
this Title for avoiding a legislative turf fight and for allowing
the MEP to continue one of its most important missions.
Mr. REED. Mr. Speaker, it is with reluctance that I will
vote in favor of this bill before us today.
For almost 6 months, this Nation's good faith and credit
has been questioned due to the failure of the Republican majority
to complete its budgetary responsibilities.
Apparently, my Republican colleagues have come to their senses
and will end their last minute, stop gap extensions of the
Government's ability to meet its obligations to bond holders
and Social Security recipients.
However, while my colleagues are acting to prevent default
they have attached a number of controversial provisions to
this must-pass legislation--namely, some of the bill's regulatory
reform language as well as line-item veto authority for the
President.
Let me be clear, while I am concerned with some of the regulatory
reform provisions included in this bill, I support regulatory
reform.
I am pleased that legislation to provide judicial review
of the Regulatory Flexibility Act is finally on its way to
becoming law.
Small businesses have been working to pass this legislation
for years, and it will give real teeth to the small business
protections in the Regulatory Flexibility Act. My subcommittee
marked up this legislation last year, and this will be the
second time a version of this legislation has passed the House.
However, there are other regulatory reform-related provisions
in the debt ceiling bill that were never considered by the
Judiciary Committee, nor any other House committee.
These provisions were not in H.R. 3136 as introduced. Instead,
these items were slipped into a manager's amendment that was
adopted by passage of the rule. Moreover, they are not identical
to the provisions that passed the Senate as part of Senator
Bond's bill, S. 942.
For example, one of the non-Senate provisions requires the
chief counsel of the SBA to select individuals representative
of affected small entities who would review a proposed rule
before it is available to the public at large and lobby for
changes. These individuals could be campaign contributors
of special interest representatives. This provision has been
limited to OSHA and EPA rules, since apparently the majority
realized what havoc it would wreak if certain politically
connected individuals were able to preview IRS, SEC, and other
rules--and were thus able to restructure their financial transactions,
for example.
Many of the regulatory reform provisions in the bill are
meritorious and are based on S. 942. However, that is no reason
to circumvent the deliberative legislative process. We ought
to review these provisions in committee and work on a bipartisan
basis to evaluate and improve upon them instead of slipping
them in to must pass legislation.
If my colleagues are not concerned with some of the provisions
of the regulatory reform language in H.R. 3136, I would urge
them to consider the implications of the line-item veto section
of this bill.
I am concerned with wasteful spending, and I have voted to
cut a multitude of unneeded programs like the superconducting
supercollider and the advanced liquid rocket motor.
However, I am opposed to the line-item veto because it would
disrupt the checks and balances of the Constitution. Currently,
the President has the power to veto any legislation and Congress
can attempt to override this veto. A line-item veto would
severely inhibit the legislative branch's say in the spending
priorities of this Nation.
The line-item veto sounds innocuous enough, but the people
of a small State like Rhode Island know full well what giving
the President the authority to pick and choose budget items
means.
Indeed, Rhode Island has experienced a Presidential effort
through existing executive branch authority to eliminate an
essential program.
In 1992, President Bush tried to rescind funding for the
Seawolf submarine program which is vital to our Nation's defense
and is the livelihood of thousands of working Rhode Islanders.
Fortunately, Democrats beat back this attempt, but I am concerned
that the line-item provision before us would make future battles
closer to a Sisyphean battle than a fair fight. For example,
a President--of any political party--could use the line-item
veto to eliminate other programs that are important to Rhode
Island without fear because a small State like mine only has
four votes in Congress.
I would argue that it was this fear of retribution which
motivated the Founding Fathers to give the legislative branch
the power of the purse and restrict the President's veto powers.
Regrettably, the line-item veto before us today, would grossly
distort the Constitution's delicate balance of power and tilt
it to the President, and I cannot support such a shift with
the interests of my State in mind.
Mr. Speaker, as I stated earlier, I will support this bill
because it is imperative that we prevent the Government from
defaulting on obligations made many years ago.
In addition, I will also vote for this legislation because
it contains provisions that would increase the amount of income
that Social Security recipients can earn without losing any
benefits.
Under current law, Social Security recipients between the
ages of 65 and 69 can earn up to $11,520 in 1996 without having
their benefits reduced. Each $3 in wages earned in excess
of this limit results in a deduction of $1 in Social Security
benefits.
This legislation gradually increases the amount seniors under
age 70 can earn without losing any benefits to $30,000 by
the year 2002.
I support increasing the Social Security earnings test and
voted in favor of the Senior Citizens' Right to Work Act,
which included this increase. The House overwhelmingly passed
this bill on December 5, 1995 by a vote of 411 to 4.
Approximately 1 million of the 42 million Social Security
recipients are expected to benefit from this increase in the
earnings limit.
Increasing the earnings test will help improve the overall
economic situation of low and middle income seniors in Rhode
Island who work out of necessity, not by choice. For example,
a Rhode Island senior currently making $12,500 loses almost
$330 in Social Security benefits. With the increase included
in the legislation before us, that senior would not lose any
benefits.
Our seniors have the skills, expertise, and enthusiasm that
employers value, and they should be encouraged to work and
contribute, not penalized for it.
Mr. Speaker, in closing, I believe I have a duty to prevent
the default of the U.S. Government and I will support H.R.
3136, but I would urge my Republican colleagues to stop using
important budget legislation as a vehicle for pet causes.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 391,
the previous question is ordered on the bill, as amended.
The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the
bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time,
and was read the third time.
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MOTION TO RECOMMIT OFFERED BY MR. BONIOR
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the gentleman opposed to the
bill?
Mr. BONIOR. I am in its present form, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I reserve a point of order against
the motion to recommit.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion
to recommit.
The Clerk read as follows:
Mr. Bonior moves to recommit the bill to the Committee on
Ways and Means with an instruction to report the bill back
to the House forthwith with the following amendment: Add at
the end of section 331(b) the following:
The amendment made by subsection (a) shall only apply during
periods when the minimum wage under section 6(a)(1) of the
Fair Labor Standards Act is not less than $4.70 an hour during
the year beginning on July 4, 1996 and not less than $5.15
an hour after July 3, 1997.
POINT OF ORDER
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I make a point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his point
of order.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I make, actually, two points of
order: a point of order that the motion to recommit with instructions
is not germane to the bill; and, second, that the motion to
recommit with instructions constitutes an unfunded intergovernmental
mandate under section 425 of the Congressional Budget Act.
I would ask that a ruling first be made on the point of order
against germaneness, on the basis of germaneness.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Michigan
[Mr. Bonior] desire to be heard on the point of order?
Mr. BONIOR. I do, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the gentleman
from Michigan [Mr. Bonior] on the point of order.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, this bill is very broad in its scope.
This bill provides that the President be given a line-item
veto authority. This bill provides for an increase in the
amount Social Security recipients could earn before their
Social Security benefits are reduced. Third, it allows small
businesses to seek judicial review of regulations.
Mr. Speaker, this bill has to do with taxpayers. There is
nothing more important to taxpayers and citizens in this country
than to be able to have revenues in their pockets. What we
are offering and what we are suggesting under this motion
to recommit is that we be given the chance to vote on the
increase in the minimum wage, which has not been raised for
the past 5 years. The minimum wage is a very important part
of a variety of laws in this country that deal with ability
of people to make ends meet. People today have incomes----
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would advise the gentleman
from Michigan [Mr. Bonior] to speak on the point of order,
and keep his remarks confined to what is pending.
Mr. BONIOR. I would say to the Speaker that the minimum wage
is directly related to the interest of small business in our
country today.
The third piece of this bill that was added in the Committee
on Rules allows small business to seek judicial review of
regulations. In that sense, Mr. Speaker, it seems to me that
those people who are affiliated with small business on the
employment side ought to have redress to getting a decent
wage in this country. You cannot live and raise a family on
$9,000 a year or less. We are asking millions of Americans
to do that. This bill will provide an opportunity for----
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, may we have regular order on the
debate on the point of order?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is correct. The gentleman
from Michigan is reminded to confine his remarks to the germaneness
of the point of order as raised by the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. Archer].
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Mr. BONIOR. Let me just add another point to my argument,
Mr. Speaker, on a more technical ground, because I am not
able, under the admonition of the Speaker, and the proper
admonition, I would say, to talk about the substance, which
deals with giving people a fair wage in this country. So I
will talk about subtitle c of the bill that requires that
the Department of Labor certify whether any of its rules,
including rules governing the minimum wage, where a small
business could go to court seeking a stay of the Department
of Labor's rules governing the minimum wage.
It seems to me that, because of the addition of that subsection
and the broadening of the bill, the minimum wage indeed is
in order as a discussion point in a motion to recommit.
I would further add, Mr. Speaker, that my recommittal motion
is logically relevant to the bill and establishes a condition
that is logically relevant to subtitle c. Under the House
precedent, my motion, I think, meets this test. If we are
meeting the test for employers, if we are meeting the test
for seniors, it seems to me we ought to be meeting the test
for those women, primarily, millions of them raising kids
on their own making less than $8,000 a year. They ought to
be given the chance to have this debated and voted on by the
House of Representatives.
Mr. Speaker, wages are important, they are stagnant in this
country.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
gentleman will suspend.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I regret again that I must ask for
regular order. The gentleman wants to wander afield and to
debate the substance of the motion to recommit, which is improper
at this moment in the House.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair has observed that the
gentleman is to confine his remarks to the point of order,
and not the substance.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I apologize to my friend from Texas
and to the Speaker for wandering. I have difficulty not talking
emotionally about this issue because of what I see in the
country. But I will confine my remarks to subsection c of
the bill that requires that the Department of Labor certify.
And I would tell my friend from Texas, the Department of Labor
has to certify whether any of its rules, including rules governing
the minimum wage. And that, it seems to me, is the direct
connection in this bill with the needs of working people in
this country who are working for a minimum wage and deserve
to have the opportunity to have that wage increase.
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Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, may I be heard on my point of order?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Texas is recognized.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be heard on the
point of order on germaneness first and, subsequent to the
ruling on that point of order, be heard on the second point
of order on intergovernmental mandates.
Mr. Speaker, the motion to recommit is not germane because
it seeks to introduce material within the jurisdiction of
a committee that is not dealt with in this bill. That is,
the subject of the amendment, the minimum wage falls within
the jurisdiction of the Committee on Economic and Educational
Opportunities, while the subject matter of the bill falls
only within the jurisdiction of the Committee on Ways and
Means, the Committee on the Budget, the Committee on Rules,
the Committee on the Judiciary, the Committee on Small Business,
and the Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.
In addition, the motion to recommit seeks to amend the Fair
Labor Standards Act, which is not amended by this bill.
Finally, there is the gentleman's argument about rulemaking.
The rulemaking authority under this bill is general and not
agency specific. Therefore, the motion to recommit is not
germane to the bill and should be ruled out of order on that
basis.
Mr. ENGEL. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from New York
[Mr. Engel] wish to be heard on the point of order raised
by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer]?
Mr. ENGEL. Yes; I would.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is recognized.
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I must say that I think it is disingenuous
and outrageous to say that the minority leader's point of
order is not in order here.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will suspend.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, the gentlemen on the other side
of the aisle can debate substance at another point in time.
This debate now is on the point of order, and they should
be told to restrain their comments on the point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Texas is correct.
The Chair would remind the gentleman from New York, as he
reminded the minority whip, that he is to confine his remarks
to the question of germaneness as raised on the point of order
by the gentleman from Texas.
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, it would seem to me, if we are debating
this bill on raising the debt ceiling limit, that something
to do with the minimum wage is about as germane to the debt
ceiling limit lifting as the line-item veto is and as allowing
seniors to make more money for Social Security purposes. I
cannot see why one would not be germane and why these other
things are germane. In fact, we should have a clean lifting
of the debt ceiling and then we would not have to worry about
germaneness after all.
So it would seem to me that we cannot on the one hand attach
all kinds of extraneous things to the lifting of the debt
ceiling and then on the other hand claim that the minimum
wage is not at least as relevant to the lifting of the debt
ceiling as the line-item veto and senior citizens are. I just
do not think it is fair if we are going to talk about playing
by fair rules. I think we ought to be fair. While they may
want to stifle free speech on the other side of the aisle,
I think we have a right to ask for equity here.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair is prepared to rule on
the point of order raised by the gentleman from Texas on germaneness.
The gentleman from Texas makes a point of order that the amendment
proposed in a motion to recommit offered by the gentleman
from Michigan is not germane to the bill. The text of germaneness
in the case of a motion to recommit with instructions is a
relationship of those instructions to the bill as a whole.
The pending bill permanently increases the debt limit. It
also comprehensively addresses several other unrelated programs,
specifically, the Senior Citizens' Right to Work Act, which
amends the Social Security Act, the Line-Item Veto Act, which
amends the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act,
and the Small Business Growth and Fairness Act of 1996, which
amends the Regulatory Flexibility Act and the Small Business
Act, and it establishes congressional review of agency rulemaking.
The motion does not amend the Fair Labor Standards Act. The
motion does not directly amend the laws that go directly to
the jurisdiction of the Committee on Economic and Educational
Opportunities.
The Chair would cite to page 600 of the Manual the following:
An amendment that conditions the availability of funds covered
by a bill by adopting as a measure of their availability the
monthly increases in the debt limit may be germane so long
as the amendment does not directly affect other provisions
of law or impose unrelated contingencies.
Therefore, the Chair rules that this motion is germane and
overrules that point of order.
UNFUNDED MANDATE POINT OF ORDER
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I urge my second point of order that
the motion to recommit with instructions constitutes an unfunded
governmental mandate under section 425 of the Congressional
Budget Act. Section 425 prohibits consideration of a measure
containing unfunded intergovernmental mandates whose total
unfunded direct costs exceeds $50 million annually. The precise
language in question is the text of the instructions that
amends the Fair Labor Standards Act to increase the minimum
wage.
According to the Congressional Budget Office, an increase
in the minimum wage from $4.25 to $5.15 would exceed the threshold
amount under the rule of $50 million. In fact, CBO estimates
that it would impose an unfunded mandate burden of over $1
billion over 5 years.
Let me also point out that CBO estimates that this provision
would result in a 0.5- to 2-percent reduction in the employment
level of teenagers and a smaller percentage reduction for
young adults. These would produce employment losses of roughly
100,000 to 500,000 jobs. Therefore, I urge the Chair to sustain
this point of order, and I urge my colleagues to vote against
the consideration of this unfunded mandate on State and local
governments.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Texas makes a
point of order that the motion violates section 425 of the
Congressional Budget Act of 1974. In accordance with section
426(b)(2) of the Act, the gentleman has met his threshold
burden to identify the specific language of the motion. Under
section 426(b)(4) of the Act, the gentleman from Texas [Mr.
Archer] and a Member opposed will each control 10 minutes
of debate on the point of order.
Pursuant to section 426(b)(3) of the Act, after debate on
the point of order, the Chair will put the question of consideration,
to wit: Will the House now consider the motion?
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I seek time in opposition to the
point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan [Mr.
Bonior] will control 10 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer].
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Mr. Speaker, it is indeed ironic that a point of order would
be made on this particular motion on the basis that this provides
an additional burden on small businesses in this country.
That is from our perspective not accurate, not fair. Let me
take the accuracy argument first.
Every study recently done in New Jersey, in Pennsylvania,
in California, has come to the conclusion that an increase
in the minimum wage which has not been increased in 5 years,
which is at $4.25 an hour, which is at its lowest level in
40 years, would not only, Mr. Speaker, would not only not
cost businesses, would not cost jobs, it would add jobs. That
is what some of these studies have said. Over 100 economists,
three Nobel laureates, have suggested it is way past the time
that we raise the minimum wage for these folks who have chosen
work over welfare, 70 percent of them who are adults, many
of them single women with children who need to have more money
in their pockets so that they can survive and so they can
live in dignity and teach their children that work indeed
does pay in this country.
That is what we are all about here, making work pay. Five
years ago we passed a similar bill, 90 cents over 2 years,
which President Bush supported. Some of my friends on this
side of the aisle support it. And here we are again, 5 years
later, people struggling to make ends meet, having to work
because they are getting paid the minimum wage and in various
parts of this country having to work overtime in some jobs,
having to work two or three jobs; fathers who cannot come
home at night and be with their kids for athletic events,
who are not there for PTA meetings; mothers who have to work
overtime who are not there reading them bedtime stories, teaching
their kids right from wrong.
Mr. Speaker, that is what this is all about. This issue is
more than about wages. This is about community. This is about
family.
Mr. Speaker, there is nothing more important than increasing
the wages of the 80 percent of Americans in this society today
who have not seen an increase since 1979.
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Since 1979, 98 percent of all income growth in America has
gone to the top 20 percent. The other 80 percent got 2 percent
of that growth. So the minimum wage, while it will not help
all of those 80 percent, will help some of them and it will
help the people who are above the minimum wage a little bit.
But it more importantly will circulate money throughout the
economy, and the more money people have, the more they spend
at the hardware store, the more they spend at the grocery
store.
This indeed is necessary for us to do justice to those who
are working in this society today and who have been denied
economic justice for too long. So I do not believe, Mr. Speaker,
that this is a violation of the unfunded mandates bill. This
is a funding of the mandates of people to take care of their
families. That is what this is about, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 2 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, this clearly is an unfunded mandate on State
and local government. It is the very thing that this Congress
overwhelmingly passed a law to prevent last year. It will
significantly increase the cost of State and local government.
If the Federal Government is to do that by its own legislation,
it has an obligation to reimburse the State and local governments.
That is not mandatory that we do that, but we took the position
that it was inappropriate for us to do that. That is why we
are having this debate today, because of the unfunded mandate
legislation that was passed and signed into law by the President
last year.
In addition, it places an unfunded mandate of unquantified
amount on employers, which was also part of the law that we
passed on a bipartisan basis and signed by the President of
the United States last year. Here already the provisions of
that law are to be tested. Did we really mean it? Well, if
this motion to recommit passes, it will say to the American
people we did not really mean it.
I do not think that is an appropriate thing for this Congress
to do. CBO estimates that the potential loss of jobs will
range, will reduce the employment level of teenagers and a
smaller percentage reduction of young adults, reducing by
a half a percent to 2 percent in the employment level of those
types of individuals. They would produce employment losses
of 90 cents per hour, increasing the minimum wage. From roughly
100,000 to 500,000 jobs, that 90-cent-per-hour increase will
cost employment that much.
I urge a positive vote on the point of order on unfunded
mandates, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman
from New York [Mr. Engel].
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the minority whip for yielding
me the time.
Mr. Speaker, let us say what this really is. This is an attempt
by the Republican majority not to allow the whole issue of
minimum wage, of raising the minimum wage for American workers
to come to the floor. I serve on the Committee on Economic
and Educational Opportunities. We cannot get that bill to
come to committee. The Republican leadership has blocked it.
We cannot get that bill to come to the floor. The Republican
leadership has blocked it.
They could care less about raising the minimum wage. They
expect people to work at a $4.25 an hour standard, which is
less than people who are on welfare are getting. So much for
welfare reform. They claim they are for welfare reform, but
they do not want to pay someone who wants to work for a living
a decent wage. Apparently they think coolie wages is what
we should do, $4.25 an hour. This would simply raise it to
$5.15.
The last raise was 5 years ago. Workers' moneys in terms
of what they make on minimum wage are at a 40-year low. Is
there no decency? Do we not care about what people who are
trying to work for a living do?
The Republican majority does not want this to come to a vote.
I may ask my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, what
are they afraid of? All we are saying is that the minimum
wage ought to be raised from $4.25 to $5.15. We owe it to
America's workers to do this. This is simple decency. What
are you afraid of? Are you afraid that the vote will pass
and that people on your side of the aisle, some of them, may
even vote for it?
There has been an attempt to block this bill from being in
the committee and from being on the floor. We cannot get a
vote. All we are saying is let us vote up or down whether
or not the minimum wage should be raised. That is all we are
asking and that is all we want here this afternoon.
PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
gentleman will state it.
Mr. ARCHER. Would the Speaker please explain to the House
how this vote will be framed and what a `yes' or `no' vote
will mean, because this is the first time that we have had
a test of the unfunded mandate legislation?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question will be put by the
Chair, to wit, will the House now consider the motion to recommit?
So an `aye' vote would mean that the House should indeed consider
the motion to recommit. A `no' vote would mean that the House
would not consider the motion to recommit.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, would it be fair to say that a `no'
vote then would sustain the point of order?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Yes.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, that is not a point of order. Mr.
Speaker, may I be heard?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The statute provides that on this
point of order the House shall decide that question and not
a ruling from the Chair on whether to consider the motion.
It would not be a prerogative of the Chair to make that judgment.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I would indicate that I think a
`yes' vote on this matter would in effect be saying that we
would allow an unfunded mandate to be passed through, or open
the door to passing through, an unfunded mandate to the States.
Those who would want to sustain the unfunded mandate legislation,
and this is our first look at this thing, the first time we
have had to consider this procedure, those who want to sustain
that should vote `no' on this measure.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman
from Texas [Mr. DeLay], the majority whip.
Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, I hope Members are watching this
debate because this is the first time that we have had this
kind of vote in the 104th Congress, and I am urging a `no'
vote on this particular motion.
I hope Members will really take a look at what is happening
here. This is blatant politics and blatant hypocrisy. The
gentleman from New York who just spoke before I did said in
his speech that we owe the American workers this vote and
we owe the American workers to raise the minimum wage. Where
did he get that? I submit he got that from the convention
that was just held in this town by the AFL-CIO who said that
they would raise over $35 million to take this majority out.
That is what this vote is all about. This group over here
on this side of the aisle has been screaming and yelling for
the last many weeks.
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Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I move that the gentleman's words
be taken down. He used the word `hypocrisy.'
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The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
Clerk will report the last words by the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. DeLay].
The Clerk read as follows:
The gentleman from New York, who just spoke before I did,
said in his speech that we owe the American workers this vote
and we owe the American workers to raise the minimum wage.
I submit he got that from the convention that was just held
in this town by the AFL-CIO, who said that they would raise
over $35 million to take this majority out. That is what this
vote is all about. This group over here on this side of the
aisle has been screaming and yelling for the last many weeks.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair does not believe that
anything in those remarks constitutes any personal reference
to any other Member of this body.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, may I be heard?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, the Clerk needs to go back farther,
because there was reference and the use of the word `hypocrite,'
and the Clerk has not gone back far enough to pick up the
words that I objected to. The word `hypocrisy' was used, excuse
me, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would remind the gentleman
that on points such as that, the point of order from the gentleman
making the point of order has to be timely. The Clerk has
gone back several sentences to transcribe what the gentleman
had said, and the gentleman's demand certainly was not timely
in this instance.
The gentleman from Texas may proceed with his remarks.
POINT OF ORDER
Mr. BONIOR. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his point
of order.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, that dialog that I am referring
to could not have taken more than 30 seconds, and it seems
to me that I was indeed timely when I rose to my feet as the
gentleman was completing his idea, which included referring
to the gentleman from New York [Mr. Engel] with the term `hypocrisy.'
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the precedents set, those
points of order raised by the gentleman have to be on a timely
basis. This is precedent that has been set in this body for
a number of years where there are intervening remarks that
you are alluding to. So the Chair rules that the gentleman
from Texas may proceed.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I appeal the ruling of the Chair.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is: Shall the decision
of the Chair stand as the judgment of the House?
MOTION TO TABLE OFFERED BY MR. ARCHER
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I move to table the appeal of the
ruling of the Chair.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered
by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer] to lay on the table
the appeal of the ruling of the Chair.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced
that they ayes appeared to have it.
RECORDED VOTE
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes
232, noes 185, not voting 14, as follows:
Roll No. 99
[Roll No. 99]
AYES--232
Allard
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clinger
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Fields (TX)
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Graham
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Jacobs
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Pryce
Quillen
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roth
Roukema
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NOES--185
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Becerra
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Brewster
Browder
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Dooley
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Flake
Foglietta
Ford
Frank (MA)
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hall (TX)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Lantos
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lipinski
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Minge
Mink
Moakley
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moran
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (NJ)
Payne (VA)
Pelosi
Peterson (FL)
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stark
Stenholm
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Torricelli
Towns
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wynn
Yates
NOT VOTING--14
Bryant (TX)
Collins (IL)
Fields (LA)
Filner
Fowler
Frost
Hayes
Martinez
McNulty
Smith (WA)
Stokes
Tejeda
Weldon (PA)
Williams
[Page: H3023]
[TIME: 1453]
So the motion to lay on the table the appeal of the ruling
of the Chair was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
PERSONAL EXPLANATION
Mr. TEJEDA. Mr. Speaker, I was at the White House on official
business and missed vote No. 99. Had I been present, I would
have voted `no.'
I ask that my statement appear in the Record immediately
after the vote.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). Under
the order of business, the debate is on a point of order by
the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer].
The gentleman from Texas [Mr. DeLay], the majority whip,
has 1 minute remaining.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Texas [Mr. DeLay].
Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, all I was trying to say was is it
not interesting that we are having a motion on the floor,
3 days after the AFL-CIO had a convention calling for an increase
in the minimum wage and promising to raise $35 million by
assessing their membership more of their hard-earned wages,
to take out the majority that is trying to allow working families
to keep more of their hard-earned wages?
I hope everyone that was outraged by the gun vote last week
will vote `no' on this, because we were accused of the same
thing.
Is it not also interesting that we have heard time and time
again that we have not had enough hearings in this body; that
we have to look at these issues, hold hearings on these issues.
yet we have the Democrats bringing a motion to the floor that
wants to do away with the unfunded mandate legislation that
was passed by the Senate and debated in less than 20 minutes.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer]
has 5 1/2 minutes remaining, and the gentleman from Michigan
[Mr. Bonior] has 4 minutes remaining.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 1/2 minutes to the gentleman
from Pennsylvania [Mr. Goodling], the chairman of the Committee
on Economic and Educational Opportunities.
(Mr. GOODLING asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. GOODLING. Mr. Speaker, I think the first thing I would
like to do is remind all Members that our balanced budget
provides an instant raise for workers in the form of lower
taxes, reduced interest rates, and greater economic growth.
PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY
Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, do we have the balanced budget
before us to speak on? What is the issue which the speakers
in the well should address?
[TIME: 1500]
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
House is debating whether to consider the motion to recommit;
the question that the House is debating right now is whether
the pending recommittal motion should be considered.
Mr. VOLKMER. A recommittal motion.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Whether to consider a recommittal
motion.
Mr. VOLKMER. Whether to consider a recommittal motion.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. That is correct.
The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Goodling] is recognized
for 1 1/2 minutes.
Mr. GOODLING. Mr. Speaker, our balanced budget provides an
instant raise for workers in the form of lower taxes, reduced
interest costs, and greater economic opportunity which will
lead to higher wages for America's workers.
Let me assure Members that the committee of jurisdiction
will look at the overall picture as to why in the last 3 years
we have had a very stagnant economy, which has resulted in
a very stagnant growth in relationship to wages and benefits.
We will look at the overall picture. We will see whether it
is unfunded mandates, such as one that was proposed today.
We will look to see whether it is regulatory reform that is
needed. But we will not look at a single issue because the
issue is all-encompassing and we have to look at every piece
of that and we will do it in a conference. We will do it in
committee. We will do it in hearings. But we will not be rushed
to do something that will, in fact, stagnate the economy even
more. We cannot afford to grow at 1 percent or less, or we
will never get out of this stagnated economy that we are presently
in.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman
from New York [Mr. Hinchey].
Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Speaker, I am surprised that the leadership
of this House would suggest that requesting an increase in
the minimum wage for American workers is an unfunded mandate.
If we follow that logic, adhere to it, then this body would
not be able to do anything to protect the health and welfare
of the American people.
We just heard it said that the so-called balanced budget
contains provisions that will be beneficial to the American
workers, tax cuts. In fact the opposite is true. We are chopping
away at the earned income tax credit. We are going to raise
taxes for minimum wage people. That is what my colleagues
are going to do.
Mr. Speaker, the American people need an increase in their
wages. They need an increase in wage. They have come to this
Congress and asked for it. The last time this Congress authorized
an increase in their salary was 1989. They are falling way
behind. At the rate of this minimum wage, a person working
full time makes only $8,500 a year. That is below the poverty
level. The American people need an increase in their wage.
They have asked for it. We have a responsibility to give it
to them. Let us give them an increase.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume, simply to respond that the Parliamentarian and the
Speaker have decided that there are adequate grounds, that
there is an unfunded mandate in this bill, or we would not
be having this procedural vote. Let me make that very clear.
This is a procedural vote. There are adequate grounds to establish
that there is an unfunded mandate in this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Let me correct the gentleman from Texas by suggesting that
this is a motion to proceed on a vote to have a debate on
the minimum wage. That is what we are discussing. That is
the issue that is before us. The question is will we even
proceed to discuss this basic fundamental economic justice
issue of whether people can earn a decent living and whether
they should move to work as opposed to welfare in this country.
That is what this is about.
My friend, and he is my friend, from Texas said and preached
to us just a few minutes ago about the AFL-CIO wanting this
vote. Those people do not make the minimum wage. They do not
make it because they got together. They banded together in
unity for a decent wage for themselves. They are working for
other folks. They are trying to get them a decent wage.
Mr. Speaker, the distinguished gentleman from Pennsylvania
[Mr. Goodling], who is also my friend, says we need to study
this. We are not going to be rushed. We need to go slow. It
is at its 40-year low, 40-year low, the minimum wage. No hearings
have been held in this Congress.
We have got about 30-some days left in the legislative calendar.
My colleagues do not want a vote. They are blocking a vote.
They blocked the vote on the minimum wage in the Senate. They
are blocking it here again in the House. Wages are important
to people. We want to put money in people's pockets by raising
their wages. That is what this issue is all about.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentlewoman
from Connecticut [Ms. DeLauro].
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Speaker, the Republican majority will find
any excuse to hurt hard-working middle-class families in this
country. Today the Republican majority would deny and block
a vote to increase the minimum wage. Mothers and fathers are
working harder, longer hours, two and three jobs, and have
seen their wages not rise but decrease. They scramble to pay
their bills, to make ends meet at the end of every week. More
than two-thirds of minimum wage workers are 20 years and older,
they are not teenagers.
The approximate annual average salary of a minimum wage worker
is $8,500 a year. It is below the poverty level. It is below
the welfare level.
Imagine, this Republican majority says no to a 90 cents increase
an hour for working families in this country, 90 cents, when
they make over $130,000 a year.
That is not justice. It is wrong to happen to working families
in this country. Shame. Stop the excuses. Let us vote on a
minimum wage in this House and let us past minimum wage for
working families in this country.
[Page: H3024]
PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRIES
Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, as a result of my previous parliamentary
inquiry to the Chair and to others, that the debate was on
the motion to recommit to determine whether or not it is an
unfunded mandate; is that correct or incorrect?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair will read from section
426(b) of the Budget Act as to what the House is debating:
question of consideration, `as disposition of points of order
under section 425 or subsection (a) of this section, the Chair
shall put the question of consideration with respect to the
proposition that is the subject of the points of order.'
Mr. VOLKMER. The point of order is the motion to recommit
is an unfunded mandate; is that correct?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. That is correct.
Mr. VOLKMER. That is the point of order.
Now, the Parliamentarian does not rule on this and we are
to vote and make an individual decision as to whether or not
we believe that this is an unfunded mandate if the point of
order is proper; is that correct, as an individual?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is simply on whether
this body wants to consider the motion to recommit, notwithstanding
the point of order.
Mr. VOLKMER. Notwithstanding the point of order. Therefore,
any Member can raise a point of order not on the motion to
recommit or an amendment or anything under this rule, correct?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Only against this motion at this
time.
Mr. VOLKMER. Only against the motion.
Now, should the Members not make a decision based on recommendations
like the Congressional Budget Office which says this is not
an unfunded mandate?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would remind Members that
the reason the House is having this debate is so the Members
can make up their minds on which way they want to vote on
this question.
Mr. VOLKMER. Without listening to the Congressional Budget
Office.
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary
inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, it has to do with
the nature of the question we are voting on.
As I understand it, we are talking about the new rule adopted
at the beginning of this Congress dealing with what to do
when there is an unfunded mandate. Would this vote, and this
would help, I believe, us clarify it, because we have dealt
with this once before in my recollection, would a vote now
to proceed with the minimum wage vote be the equivalent of
what the House did when we adopted the rule on the agriculture
bill which waived the unfunded mandate point of order?
When the House adopted the majority's proposed rule on the
agriculture bill, it waived the point of order with regard
to unfunded mandates and allowed us then to proceed on the
bill which CBO said had unfunded mandates. Are we now being
asked to do the same thing; namely, take up the bill although
CBO does not say there are unfunded mandates in there, as
we did when we adopted the majority's rule on the agriculture
bill?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair can only respond that
the reason the House is having this debate is so the House
can make the judgment on whether there shall be a vote on
the motion to recommit.
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, the previous gentleman mentioned
that the rule on the agriculture bill waived a point of order
with regard to unfunded mandates. Is this the blatant politics
and blatant hypocrisy that the majority whip was referring
to?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is not stating a parliamentary
inquiry.
The Chair would advise Members that the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. Archer] has 3 1/2 minutes remaining, the gentleman from
Michigan [Mr. Bonior] has 30 seconds remaining, and the gentleman
from Texas [Mr. Archer] has the right to close.
Mr. BONOIR. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman
from Vermont [Mr. Sanders].
(Mr. SANDERS asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
[TIME: 1515]
Mr. SANDERS. Mr. Speaker, the leadership of this Congress
has passed huge tax breaks for the rich and for the largest
corporations in America.
But somehow, when some of us want to raise the minimum wage
for millions of American workers, we are told that we are
not even allowed to have a vote.
People today are working longer hours for lower wages, and
they are entitled to a raise. Mr. Speaker, let us raise the
minimum wage; more importantly, let us have the guts to vote
on the issue.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time to
the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Armey], the majority leader.
Mr. ARMEY. Mr. Speaker, after years of frustration and months
of hard work we are here today to do three good things for
the American people: to give the President of the United States
the long-sought line-item veto authority the American people
wish for him to have, to give the senior citizens of America
a chance to work in their senior years and still retain their
Social Security benefits with less prejudice from the Government's
desire to take their earnings away, their benefits away, if
they earn money, and to create job opportunities by lessening
the red tape burden on small business. We are here to do these
things that the minority, when they were in the majority,
would not do, and we can complete that work.
Now we are being asked, and I might say it has been a very
colorful and entertaining show; we are being asked to go back
on the work that we did earlier on unfunded mandates and pose
an unfunded mandate on the communities in our country in order
to raise the minimum wage. Is this an effort to stop three
good things from happening or to do one bad thing?
I was just asked by one of my colleagues a moment ago why
is it the minority did not raise the minimum wage last year
when they had the majority in the House, they had the majority
in the Senate and they had the White House?
Mr. Speaker, I suspect the reason is that they read page
27 of Time magazine on February 6, 1995, where the President
was quoted as saying that raising the minimum wage is, and
I quote, `the wrong way to raise the incomes of low wage earners.'
Perhaps they did not.
We have had an interesting show, I have been much entertained
by it, I am sure the Nation has been entertained. But this
body belongs to the people for serious work.
I propose that we vote down this motion, get on with our
work, and do some good things for America rather than punish
the working poor.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is, will the House
now consider the motion to recommit?
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced
that the noes appeared to have it.
RECORDED VOTE
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes
192, noes 228, not voting 11, as follows:
[Page: H3025]
Roll No. 100
[Roll No. 100]
AYES--192
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Andrews
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Becerra
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Browder
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Dooley
Doyle
Duncan
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Flake
Foglietta
Ford
Frank (MA)
Frost
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Gibbons
Gilman
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jacobs
Jefferson
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Lantos
Leach
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lipinski
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Minge
Mink
Moakley
Mollohan
Moran
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (NJ)
Payne (VA)
Pelosi
Peterson (FL)
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Riggs
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Spratt
Stark
Stenholm
Stockman
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torkildsen
Torres
Torricelli
Towns
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Williams
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wynn
Yates
NOES--228
Allard
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baesler
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brewster
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clinger
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Fields (TX)
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Geren
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Graham
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Montgomery
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Pryce
Quillen
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Roth
Roukema
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (MI)
Smith (TX)
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stump
Talent
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NOT VOTING--11
Bryant (TX)
Collins (IL)
Diaz-Balart
Fields (LA)
Filner
Fowler
McNulty
Ros-Lehtinen
Smith (WA)
Stokes
Weldon (PA)
[TIME: 1537]
Mr. GILMAN changed his vote from `no' to `aye.'
So the question of consideration was decided in the negative.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I would like to clarify for the
Record inaccurate claims made by those on the Republican side
of the aisle that this motion contains an unfunded intergovernmental
mandate. The fact of the matter is, Mr. Speaker, it does not.
They suggested that the Congressional Budget Office has determined
that this motion regarding the minimum wage contained an unfunded
mandate. CBO did not make any such determination. In fact,
CBO has determined just the opposite, that this motion does
not contain any unfunded mandates. The document to which the
Republicans referred did not cite this language at all but
rather referred to a letter written by CBO last year to a
Member of the other body on another piece of legislation under
consideration by that Chamber. That legislation contained
specific language which would have directly increased the
minimum wage. To equate that legislation with this modest
motion is to compare apples and oranges--make that grapes
and watermelons.
I want to place at this point in my statement, a letter from
the Congressional Budget Office that states that this motion
does not contain an unfunded mandate:
U.S. CONGRESS,
Congressional Budget Office,
Washington, DC, March 28, 1996.
Hon. John Joseph Moakley,
Ranking Minority Member, Committee on Rules, House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Congressman: As you requested, we have reviewed the
motion made by Mr. Bonior to determine whether it contains
an intergovernmental mandate as defined by the Unfunded Mandates
Reform Act of 1995 (Public Law 104-4). The motion would require
H.R. 3136, the Contract with America Advancement Act of 1996,
to be recommitted to the House Committee on Ways and Means,
with instructions to add a new section to the bill. The new
section would amend section 331 of Subtitle C to prohibit
the administrative proceedings provisions of that subtitle
from applying in any period during which the minimum wage
was less than $4.70 per hour beginning on July 4, 1996, and
$5.15 per hour after July 3, 1997.
The motion and the new section would not increase the minimum
wage, but would make other provisions conditional on such
an increase. Subsequent legislation would be necessary to
increase the minimum wage. Public Law 104-4 defines an intergovernmental
mandate as `any provision in legislation . . . that would
impose an enforceable duty upon state, local, or tribal governments.'
The motion contains no such enforceable duty and thus does
not contain an intergovernmental mandate.
If you wish further details on this matter, we would be pleased
to provide them. The CBO staff contact is Theresa Gullo.
Sincerely,
June E. O'Neill,
Director.
It is very important that the membership of the House of
Representatives, during this first formal raising of the unfunded
mandate point-of-order, be aware of this attempt by the Republican
majority to misuse, confuse, and distort the once laudable
intention of this law. The unfunded mandates legislation enjoyed
widespread bi-partisan support, passing the House by vote
of 394 to 28. I was a member of the conference committee and
a supporter of this measure. Members on both sides of the
aisle supported this initiative because of growing concern
over the imposition of unfunded Federal requirements on the
public and private sector.
I am deeply concerned that the unfunded mandates law is being
used not to curb the past practice of imposing financial burdens
on State and local government entities and the private sector,
but instead to stifle debate on certain legislative items.
During the consideration on the unfunded mandates legislation
in January 1995, I expressed my concern on the section of
the bill that implemented this new point-of-order. The legislation
specifically prevents the Rules Committee from waiving the
point-of-order that is triggered when there is an unfunded
mandate--as defined by Public 104-4--in any bill, joint resolution,
motion, conference report, or amendment. Only a small handful
of House rules in the history of the House of Representatives
have been given this special protection. If a member raises
an unfunded mandates point-of-order, all he or she need do
is to cite the provision in the measure under debate. There
is an automatic 20 minutes of debate followed by a vote.
There is no parliamentary or budgetary ruling and there is
no burden of proof on the Member raising the point-of-order.
It does not matter if the point-of-order is baseless, simply
by raising the point-of-order, the House is required to vote
on whether to consider the text that is challenged. A simple
majority of the House, for any reason, regardless of whether
there is any legitimate financial imposition or not, can deny
the opportunity of a Member to proceed with an otherwise germane
and viable legislative measure. I raised the concern at that
time that this could be used both to stop legislation not
containing unfunded mandates from being considered on the
floor and as a dilatory tactic to disrupt the legislative
process. I was always assured that this would not be used
for this purpose. Even then, however, I did not anticipate
that the very first use of this tactic would be to deny the
minority the right to offer an entirely legitimate and germane
motion to recommit.
One of the Republican leadership's first changes to the House
rules on the 104th Congress guaranteed the minority the right
to recommit with instructions. In fact, during the 102d and
103d Congresses in particular, we in the majority were crudely
accused of `raping the rights of the minority' by, on rare
occasion, denying them instructions on the motion to recommit.
Now it appears they are grossly misusing the new unfunded
mandates law and, on this first challenge out of the gate,
we are being denied the very right that was so vital to the
Republicans in previous Congresses.
I am deeply troubled that if this practice continues, it
could simply become a backdoor approach used to gag legitimate
debate, whether on the motion to recommit or on any other
responsible and germane legislative initiatives. I urge the
majority to carefully consider the ramifications of misusing
the unfunded mandates point-of-order for purposes other than
the legitimate intentions spelled out in Public Law 104-4.
The unfunded mandates law should be used as tool to fix legislation
that imposes unfair financial burdens on state and local governments
and the private sector. It should not be used as a weapon
to prevent the consideration of viable and responsible legislation
initiatives.
[Page: H3026]
MOTION TO RECOMMIT OFFERED BY MR. ORTON
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). Is
the gentleman opposed to the bill?
Mr. ORTON. I am in its present form, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion
to recommit.
The Clerk read as follows:
Mr. Orton moves to recommit the bill to the Committee on
Ways and Means with instructions to report the bill forthwith
with the following amendment:
On page 60, strike lines 5 through 15 and insert the following:
SEC. 205. EFFECTIVE DATES.
This title and the amendments made by it shall take effect
and apply to measures enacted after the date of its enactment
and shall have no force or effect on or after January 1, 2005.
PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRIES
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, before being recognized to speak on
my motion to recommit, I have a parliamentary inquiry which
is important to resolve, so people can understand the motion
to recommit and how it fits into what we have been voting
on.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his parliamentary
inquiry.
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, is it correct that the rule which
was adopted providing for debate on this bill did automatically
adopt the conference report on the line-item veto as a separate
bill and authorize that to be sent to the President for his
signature?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would tell the gentleman
that the answer to that is yes.
Mr. ORTON. Further parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Is
it correct that the rule provides that title II in this bill,
which is the line-item veto title, would be stripped from
this bill if unamended, and the bill would be sent without
title II, but if amended, title II would remain in this bill
and go to the Senate for their consideration?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. In response to the gentleman, if
title II were amended as a result of a motion to recommit,
then it would not be stricken from the engrossed bill. But
the operation of section 2(b) of the House Resolution 391
would not be affected. The conference report on S. 4 would
stand as adopted.
Mr. ORTON. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, the conference report,
standing as adopted, would go to the President for his signature,
regardless of whether this motion to recommit is adopted and
the title is amended. The only effect of amending the title
would be to keep title II in the bill as amended for Senate
consideration of the title II as amended, is that correct?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. That is correct.
Mr. ORTON. So if we adopt the motion to recommit and amend
this title II, the President would have the original conference
bill under the rule for his signature, and assuming the Senate
adopted this bill with the amendment, would also have title
II as amended, under this bill for his signature, is that
correct?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. That would be possible.
Mr. ORTON. I thank the Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Utah [Mr. Orton]
is recognized for 5 minutes on the motion to recommit.
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, I will be as clear and concise as
I can. This motion to recommit does one thing and one thing
only to the bill we are considering. It simply says that the
line-item veto provisions of the bill would become effective
immediately upon enactment, rather than waiting until the
next calendar year to become effective. That is all it does.
Therefore, the President will already get the opportunity
to sign the conference report making line-item veto effective
the beginning of next year.
[TIME: 1545]
This amendment will give him the opportunity, if adopted,
to make it effective immediately and give the President the
authority to veto items of specific spending between the date
of enactment and the next calendar year. That is the only
difference.
Now, Mr. Speaker, let me just in explanation suggest that
not only I but many of my colleagues on both sides of the
aisle support this line-item veto. The line-item veto has
not been partisan. It is supported by both Democrats and Republicans,
by the Congress and the President. In fact, during floor debate
in the other body on March 23, 1995, the majority leader said
the following: `During the 1980's, opponents of the line-item
veto used to say that Republicans supported it only because
the President happened to be a Republican at the time. Now,
we are in the majority and we are prepared, nearly all of
us on this side, to give this authority to a Democratic President.'
The Senate majority whip said the following: `Why be afraid
of allowing this current President to use his power? We on
this side of the aisle, the Republicans, are ready to give
this opportunity to President Clinton so he can have the opportunity
to pare spending.'
In this body in February 1995 during debate on this line-item
veto bill, the Chairman of the Committee on Rules, Mr. Solomon,
said the following: `Well, here we are. We get a Democrat
President, and here is Solomon up here fighting for the same
line-item veto for the Democrat President.'
Finally, the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Goss] during the
same debate said, `Let us give it to the President whether
the President is Democrat or Republican. Let us stop the games.
Let us get into budget management.'
That is what this amendment is about. It is about budget
management. It is about stopping the partisan games. It is
about saying we are for line-item veto now, not next year
or next decade; we want it to be effective upon enactment.
Mr. Speaker, that is all this amendment will do. If passed,
it will send it to the other body for consideration and the
President's signature, which would then give us all the opportunity
to drop partisan rhetoric and actually have the opportunity
to cut spending.
Now someone suggests we do not really need it
because we are cutting spending. This is the 1996 congressional
pig book put out by the Citizens Against Government Waste.
They have identified over $12.5 billion in the eight appropriation
bills that we have already passed for 1996 of questionable
spending which, if the President had this authority right
now, he could veto. That is for 1996. We have lost that opportunity.
Let us not lose the opportunity for 1997. Let us give him
the opportunity during the appropriation process of 1997.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. Roemer].
Mr. ROEMER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Utah
for yielding.
I would say this is a very simple motion. I voted for a line-item
veto for President Bush. I voted for the rule to give the
line-item veto immediately to the President 2 hours ago. This
motion will say, do not wait until 1997, do not play politics,
do not do what the American people do not want us to do. Let
the President cut $25 billion out of spending now.
Mr. Speaker, it would be interesting to see and explain to
our constituents why we did not extend the line-item veto
to the President of the United States tomorrow.
[Page: H3027]
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, in closing let me just say we do not
want to make this a partisan fight. This motion to recommit
is not partisan. This motion to recommit does nothing to the
bill which we are adopting except one thing: making the line-item
veto effective immediately upon enactment so that this President
has not only the opportunity, but the responsibility, to look
at each item of spending and veto those items that he believes
are inappropriate, send them back under new legislation. It
is appropriate, it is responsible, it is the thing to do.
I would urge adoption of the motion to recommit.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer] is recognized for 5 minutes
in opposition to the motion to recommit.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from New
York [Mr. Solomon], the chairman of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I am a little concerned with what
I am hearing here today because Senate Majority Leader Dole
and President Clinton chose the effective dates that are in
this bill today. If we want to kill line-item veto, we will
unbalance this very, very delicate document we have here today.
Mr. Speaker, our conferees have spent a year now working
together with people who did not want a line-item veto over
in the other body. There were a lot of them. But finally,
with the leadership of Bob Dole we got them to move, and they
conceded to us on almost everything, almost everything. We
have a real, true line-item veto here today, something we
have always wanted.
Now, there are things in here I do not like. There is a sunset
provision for 8 years. I wanted it to be permanent. Know what
we did? We traded that off to get something that my colleagues
and I want, and that is a lockbox provision, so that if any
President vetoes an item and it sticks, that means that money
cannot be reprogrammed. It means it is cut out of the budget
and we have that satisfaction.
Mr. Speaker, Ronald Reagan told me once, Jerry, the art of
compromise means success in politics; people have other views.
We have worked diligently with Senator Exon and other good
Democrats on the other side of the aisle in the Senate to
put this together. We better vote down this motion to recommit
and vote for this, and let us give the President a true line-item
veto. That is what the American people want.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania
[Mr. Clinger], the chairman of the Committee on Government
Reform and Oversight.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I served as chairman of the conference
on the line-item veto. It was a difficult, contentious, hotly
contested conference. We argued and debated over the issues
long and hard. It took us a year, yes, it took us longer than
any of us would have wanted.
It was not a partisan matter; in fact, there are those who
support line-item veto, the gentleman from Utah being one
of the staunchest supporters of the line-item veto on both
sides of the aisle and in both Chambers, so this is not a
partisan issue. But what we finally arrived at, I think, is
the best that we can get. One of the items that was agreed
to was an effective date. That was only finally resolved because
there was an agreement reached between the President of the
United States and the majority leader of the Senate to depoliticize
the issue.
Mr. Speaker, I would point out that to change the effective
date now would really put this right square in the middle
of the Presidential debate. I think it would clearly distort
what we are trying to do here. By putting it on January 1,
obviously the gentleman from Utah [Mr. Orton] and Members
on the other side of the aisle feel very strongly that they
will, in fact, reelect our President, their party leader.
We, on the other hand, feel very strongly that we will elect
our nominee, Mr. Dole. This takes it out of the political
spectrum. It gives the next President or the continuing President
the ability to use this line-item veto.
So I would urge, and urge strongly, Members on both sides
not to upset the apple cart here, because it really could
do violence to what we had agreed to.
Our conference report is on its way to the President now.
It was, in fact, passed as a result of the rule that passed.
It was passed. Now, if we were to adopt this amendment, it
would change a deal that has been made, an agreement that
has been reached, bipartisan on both sides of the aisle and
I think would possibly make it difficult for us actually to
exercise the line-item veto.
So I would urge as strongly as I can, please, keep the effective
date where it is, keep it out of the political and the Presidential
campaign this year.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, to reiterate what was said in the
earlier debate, that the President has within his power unilaterally
to activate this authority immediately after his signature
on the bill by signing and agreeing to a balanced budget for
this country and does not have to wait until January 1, 1997.
Further, to say to the Members that the perfect can be the
enemy of good movement for what has taken so very, very long,
and I know it better than anybody else, because I initiated
line-item veto as a proposal before the Congress. It is not
agreed to, it can be signed into law. Let us not put it back
into the maze of procedure that could further tie it up this
year. I urge a vote against the motion to recommit.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, the previous
question is ordered on the motion to recommit.
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to
recommit.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced
that the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas
159, nays 256, not voting 16, as follows:
Roll No. 101
[Roll No. 101]
YEAS--159
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Becerra
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Boucher
Browder
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Campbell
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clement
Clyburn
Coburn
Coleman
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Deutsch
Dingell
Doggett
Dooley
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Ensign
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Flake
Ford
Frank (MA)
Frost
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Graham
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jacobs
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kleczka
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
Meehan
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Minge
Mink
Moakley
Moran
Neal
Neumann
Obey
Olver
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Payne (NJ)
Payne (VA)
Pelosi
Peterson (FL)
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Poshard
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Rush
Sabo
Salmon
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Shadegg
Shays
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Souder
Stenholm
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Upton
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Wamp
Ward
Waters
Waxman
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wynn
Zimmer
NAYS--256
Abercrombie
Allard
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Borski
Brewster
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clayton
Clinger
Coble
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Dellums
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dixon
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
Engel
English
Evans
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Fields (TX)
Flanagan
Foglietta
Foley
Forbes
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kildee
Kim
King
Kingston
Klink
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Lipinski
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McKeon
McKinney
Meek
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moorhead
Morella
Murtha
Myers
Myrick
Nadler
Nethercutt
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oberstar
Ortiz
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Pastor
Paxon
Petri
Pickett
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Pryce
Quillen
Quinn
Radanovich
Rahall
Ramstad
Rangel
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Roth
Roukema
Sanders
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Scott
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Shaw
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Solomon
Spence
Stark
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tauzin
Taylor (NC)
Tejeda
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Towns
Traficant
Velazquez
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Watt (NC)
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Williams
Wolf
Yates
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
[Page: H3028]
NOT VOTING--16
Bryant (TX)
Collins (IL)
Duncan
Fields (LA)
Filner
Fowler
Lantos
McIntosh
McNulty
Ros-Lehtinen
Smith (WA)
Spratt
Stokes
Tate
Torricelli
Weldon (PA)
[TIME: 1614]
The Clerk announced the following pair:
On this vote:
Mrs. Collins of Illinois for, with Mrs. Fowler against.
Mrs. MYRICK, Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, Mrs. CLAYTON, Mr.
WATT of North Carolina, and Mr. NADLER changed their vote
from `yea' to `nay'
Messrs. PAYNE of New Jersey, SHADEGG, and SALMON changed
their vote from `nay' to `yea.'
So the motion to recommit was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). The
question is on the passage of the bill.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced
that the ayes appeared to have it.
RECORDED VOTE
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes
328, noes 91, not voting 12, as follows:
Roll No. 102
[Roll No. 102]
AYES--328
Ackerman
Allard
Andrews
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baesler
Baker (LA)
Baldacci
Ballenger
Barcia
Barrett (NE)
Barrett (WI)
Bass
Bateman
Bentsen
Bereuter
Bevill
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonior
Bono
Boucher
Brewster
Browder
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canady
Cardin
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chapman
Christensen
Chrysler
Clayton
Clement
Clinger
Coble
Collins (GA)
Combest
Costello
Cox
Coyne
Cramer
Crane
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Danner
Davis
de la Garza
Deal
DeFazio
DeLauro
DeLay
Deutsch
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dixon
Doggett
Dooley
Dornan
Doyle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Durbin
Edwards
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
Engel
English
Ensign
Eshoo
Everett
Ewing
Farr
Fawell
Fazio
Fields (TX)
Flake
Flanagan
Foglietta
Foley
Ford
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Frost
Funderburk
Furse
Gallegly
Ganske
Gejdenson
Gekas
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Gordon
Goss
Graham
Green
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Hall (OH)
Hall (TX)
Hamilton
Hancock
Hansen
Harman
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hefley
Hefner
Heineman
Hilleary
Hinchey
Hobson
Hoke
Holden
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hoyer
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kaptur
Kasich
Kelly
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kim
King
Kleczka
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Lincoln
Linder
Lipinski
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lowey
Lucas
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Manzullo
Martini
Mascara
McCarthy
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHale
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Meehan
Menendez
Meyers
Mica
Miller (CA)
Miller (FL)
Minge
Moakley
Molinari
Montgomery
Moorhead
Moran
Morella
Myrick
Nadler
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Obey
Ortiz
Orton
Oxley
Packard
Pallone
Parker
Pastor
Paxon
Payne (VA)
Peterson (FL)
Peterson (MN)
Petri
Pickett
Pomeroy
Porter
Portman
Poshard
Pryce
Quillen
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Reed
Regula
Richardson
Riggs
Rivers
Roberts
Roemer
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Rose
Roth
Royce
Rush
Sawyer
Saxton
Schaefer
Schiff
Schumer
Scott
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shaw
Shuster
Sisisky
Skeen
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Spratt
Stearns
Stenholm
Stupak
Talent
Tanner
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (NC)
Tejeda
Thomas
Thornberry
Thornton
Thurman
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Torres
Upton
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Ward
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weller
Whitfield
Wicker
Williams
Wilson
Wise
Wolf
Woolsey
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NOES--91
Abercrombie
Baker (CA)
Barr
Bartlett
Barton
Becerra
Beilenson
Berman
Borski
Bunn
Chenoweth
Clay
Clyburn
Coburn
Coleman
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Cooley
Crapo
Dellums
Dingell
Doolittle
Evans
Fattah
Forbes
Frank (MA)
Gonzalez
Hastings (FL)
Hayworth
Herger
Hilliard
Hoekstra
Jackson (IL)
Jacobs
Jefferson
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kingston
Klink
LaFalce
Largent
Lewis (CA)
Lofgren
Markey
Martinez
Matsui
McDermott
McKinney
Meek
Metcalf
Mink
Mollohan
Murtha
Myers
Neal
Oberstar
Olver
Owens
Payne (NJ)
Pelosi
Pombo
Rahall
Rangel
Roukema
Roybal-Allard
Sabo
Salmon
Sanders
Sanford
Scarborough
Schroeder
Serrano
Shadegg
Shays
Skaggs
Smith (MI)
Stark
Stockman
Studds
Stump
Taylor (MS)
Thompson
Towns
Traficant
Velazquez
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
White
Yates
NOT VOTING--12
Bryant (TX)
Collins (IL)
Fields (LA)
Filner
Fowler
Lantos
McNulty
Ros-Lehtinen
Smith (WA)
Stokes
Torricelli
Weldon (PA)
[TIME: 1632]
The Clerk announced the following pairs:
On this vote:
Mrs. Fowler for, with Mrs. Collins of Illinois against.
Ms. Ros-Lehtinen for, with Mr. Filner against.
Mrs. Smith of Washington for, with Mr. Stokes against.
Mr. CRAPO and Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland changed their vote
from `aye' to `no.'
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Mr. FOGLIETTA changed his vote from `no' to `aye.'
So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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